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vivster on 20 July 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Nationalism and patriotism, two ideas that I'm very opposed to.

There is nothing really wrong with patriotism. The problem are nationalists claiming to be patriotic when they're just blind bigots. The difference in attitude is very different between patriotism and nationalism. Like the difference between socially minded Christians and the KKK.



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Qwark on 20 July 2017
Aeolus451 said:
When you allow a country to be rule by religion, this kind of stuff happens. I won't be surprised if the west has to fight some of those students in 5 to 10 years.

Patriotism, religion, propaganda and nationalism the perfect ingredients to justify a war or an uproar. Oh well Turkey is still a NAVO member, but without UK and US continental Europe's army is a pathetically weak and could easily be overrun by Turkey and Russia.



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vivster on 20 July 2017
Qwark said:
Aeolus451 said:
When you allow a country to be rule by religion, this kind of stuff happens. I won't be surprised if the west has to fight some of those students in 5 to 10 years.

Patriotism, religion, propaganda and nationalism the perfect ingredients to justify a war or an uproar. Oh well Turkey is still a NAVO member, but without UK and US continental Europe's army is a pathetically weak and could easily be overrun by Turkey and Russia.

Stop spreading useless fear. Europe will not be overrun by Russia or Turkey even if there was no army at all.



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StarOcean on 20 July 2017
VGPolyglot said:
Nationalism and patriotism, two ideas that I'm very opposed to.

As am I. It cannot and does not lead to any good. Only hatred and violence. 



VGPolyglot on 20 July 2017
vivster said:
VGPolyglot said:
Nationalism and patriotism, two ideas that I'm very opposed to.

There is nothing really wrong with patriotism. The problem are nationalists claiming to be patriotic when they're just blind bigots. The difference in attitude is very different between patriotism and nationalism. Like the difference between socially minded Christians and the KKK.

I hope for there to be a world without countries, and patriotism is definitely in opposition to that.



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VGPolyglot on 20 July 2017
StarOcean said:
VGPolyglot said:
Nationalism and patriotism, two ideas that I'm very opposed to.

As am I. It cannot and does not lead to any good. Only hatred and violence. 

High five Star!  



monocle_layton on 20 July 2017

What really bothers me is that nationalism isn't even supported within Islamic beliefs. This man needs to be stopped by any means. He is clearly dangerous and probably wouldn't hesitate to be the 21st century's Hitler.



fatslob-:O on 20 July 2017

Turkey was never 'poised' to begin with including most of Latin America ...

Just like many of the other countries it wasn't ready for the brave new world experienced by many first world countries ...



VGPolyglot on 20 July 2017
fatslob-:O said:

Turkey was never 'poised' to begin with including most of Latin America ...

Just like many of the other countries it wasn't ready for the brave new world experienced by many first world countries ...

Ugh, I guess we're going to go at it again, are we?



LurkerJ on 20 July 2017
VGPolyglot said:
fatslob-:O said:

Turkey was never 'poised' to begin with including most of Latin America ...

Just like many of the other countries it wasn't ready for the brave new world experienced by many first world countries ...

Ugh, I guess we're going to go at it again, are we?

Going again at what? Curious.