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THE DRAGON AND THE WOLF RATING

10 83 35.78%
 
9 61 26.29%
 
8 38 16.38%
 
7 23 9.91%
 
6 10 4.31%
 
5 4 1.72%
 
4 1 0.43%
 
3 1 0.43%
 
2 1 0.43%
 
1 10 4.31%
 
Total:232
StokedUp said:
John2290 said:
Episode 3.
It was pretty damn good while on dragonstone and See Jorha and his cure however the rest was pretty underwhelming. Was hoping to see the hound again and here about dundarian and the dead at the wall but alas. Brans scene was so very nonsensical. There is no reason for him to be aloof and even if it were a year or two since he left the three up north...he is this far withdrawn? Not even the OG raven was like the robot he is now. He could have easily just told Wanda the bare minimum like his power with the trees and that Erika was alive. Best bit...Tyrion and Jon brooding. Worst bit...Bran.

I completely agree with you about Bran, what were the directors thinking by turning him into an unsociable reclused android!? it ruined the reunion for me.  Bran knows full well, probably more than anyone that time isnt on thier side and yet he couldnt tell Sansa anything except how beautiful she looked on the night she got raped by Ramsay Bolton, it was all just a bit...daft. I really hope he snaps out of his new way.

I watched "Thronecast" after the show which is an hour long program in which  four celebs talk about game of thrones and one of them will be an actor from the show. This week is was Hodors actor Kristian Nairn and even he seemed pissed, he said he hopes he can go back as a whitewalker and rip Brans head off :) it was quite funny.

Then you didn't understand what happened in the Three Eyed Raven's cave.

Bran's training was supposed to spread out over the course of years, maybe even decades. Remember how the 3ER didn't want him to stay too long while diving into the visions? It's to make sure Bran doesn't get lost or destroys his humanity in the process. The 3ER had about centuries to observe, to let omniscience flow through him, to tame knowledge. By precipitating their doom, Bran had to be flown with centuries of knowledge, the greensight he wasn't ready to bear, and now he has to cope with it, which makes him dullish, even numb. He's just not there because he can't handle it. It was too much at the same time.

Imagine someone gives you access in your mind to all the world's history. Your mind would explode, dude!



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I actually liked the Bran scene and how it showed the effect of Green Dreams and the Three Eyed Crow. Events happen and you see so much that being emotionally invested loses meaning. You see how fleeting a lifetime is and I think on a modern mind that would have a profound effect, much less a middle ages equivalent one.



Augen said:
I actually liked the Bran scene and how it showed the effect of Green Dreams and the Three Eyed Crow. Events happen and you see so much that being emotionally invested loses meaning. You see how fleeting a lifetime is and I think on a modern mind that would have a profound effect, much less a middle ages equivalent one.

My point exactly. And also the fact that Bran has been overwhelmed by green dreams since the 3ER passed upon him all of his knowledge. Must be devastating for a single mind to be disrupted by so much information all at once.



guiduc said:
StokedUp said:

I completely agree with you about Bran, what were the directors thinking by turning him into an unsociable reclused android!? it ruined the reunion for me.  Bran knows full well, probably more than anyone that time isnt on thier side and yet he couldnt tell Sansa anything except how beautiful she looked on the night she got raped by Ramsay Bolton, it was all just a bit...daft. I really hope he snaps out of his new way.

I watched "Thronecast" after the show which is an hour long program in which  four celebs talk about game of thrones and one of them will be an actor from the show. This week is was Hodors actor Kristian Nairn and even he seemed pissed, he said he hopes he can go back as a whitewalker and rip Brans head off :) it was quite funny.

Then you didn't understand what happened in the Three Eyed Raven's cave.

Bran's training was supposed to spread out over the course of years, maybe even decades. Remember how the 3ER didn't want him to stay too long while diving into the visions? It's to make sure Bran doesn't get lost or destroys his humanity in the process. The 3ER had about centuries to observe, to let omniscience flow through him, to tame knowledge. By precipitating their doom, Bran had to be flown with centuries of knowledge, the greensight he wasn't ready to bear, and now he has to cope with it, which makes him dullish, even numb. He's just not there because he can't handle it. It was too much at the same time.

Imagine someone gives you access in your mind to all the world's history. Your mind would explode, dude!

Yeah, I guess when you put it that way then it does make sense if that's the direction they're taking, I just didn't really think that deep about it lol. Still I hope Bran can snap out of it and regain some humanity back.



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StokedUp said:

Yeah, I guess when you put it that way then it does make sense if that's the direction they're taking, I just didn't really think that deep about it lol. Still I hope Bran can snap out of it and regain some humanity back.

My guess is sacrificing humanity is the cost for Bran to aid Jon in the war against the army of the dead.  

Not sure it has been discussed here, but there is a theory through his green dreams it was Bran that drove Aerys mad with visions of White Walkers driving him to "Burn them all!" so essentially Bran will have knowledge that he exists in a loop similar to Hodor where he cause the events that led to all this suffering.



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Augen said:
Small detail that created some speculation for me. I think Olenna's mentioning of Joffrey's Valyrian Steel Sword being in Jaime's possession is foreshadowing of him killing Cersei after she is changed into a White Walker, possibly the Corpse Queen.

I don't remember reading anything about the Corpse Queen. Is she mentionned in the released chapters of Winds of Winter?

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About Bran, I can understand him being overwhelmed by his visions but telling your sister she looked so hot just before she got raped is extremely creepy.

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I'll miss Olenna, she was such a badass and had some of the best lines. Really liked the "He really was a cunt" line about Joffrey.



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TruckOSaurus said:
Augen said:
Small detail that created some speculation for me. I think Olenna's mentioning of Joffrey's Valyrian Steel Sword being in Jaime's possession is foreshadowing of him killing Cersei after she is changed into a White Walker, possibly the Corpse Queen.

I don't remember reading anything about the Corpse Queen. Is she mentionned in the released chapters of Winds of Winter?

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About Bran, I can understand him being overwhelmed by his visions but telling your sister she looked so hot just before she got raped is extremely creepy.

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I'll miss Olenna, she was such a badass and had some of the best lines. Really liked the "He really was a cunt" line about Joffrey.

http://awoiaf.westeros.org/index.php/Night%27s_King%27s_corpse_queen

She was allegedly the Night's King consort.



TruckOSaurus said:
Augen said:
Small detail that created some speculation for me. I think Olenna's mentioning of Joffrey's Valyrian Steel Sword being in Jaime's possession is foreshadowing of him killing Cersei after she is changed into a White Walker, possibly the Corpse Queen.

I don't remember reading anything about the Corpse Queen. Is she mentionned in the released chapters of Winds of Winter?

---------------------------

About Bran, I can understand him being overwhelmed by his visions but telling your sister she looked so hot just before she got raped is extremely creepy.

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I'll miss Olenna, she was such a badass and had some of the best lines. Really liked the "He really was a cunt" line about Joffrey.

Specifically? No.  She is a known quantitiy from the past, similar to the Night's King. I see paralells to the past and present stories played with often in A Song of Ice and Fire.

My speculation stems from the books and show.  I think in the books  we have Stoneheart and Euron's visions of a pale women.  In the show we have Euron courting Cersei.  Since I also think Jaime will kill Cersei in the books and show I think they will handle it differently.  Human Cersei in book will die by Jaime for similar reasons he killed Aerys. Show Cersei will be turned into a White Walker (The Corpse Queen) taking Stonehearts place and be killed by Jaime in tragic fashion since they have him still loving her in the show.



Augen said:
TruckOSaurus said:

I don't remember reading anything about the Corpse Queen. Is she mentionned in the released chapters of Winds of Winter?

---------------------------

About Bran, I can understand him being overwhelmed by his visions but telling your sister she looked so hot just before she got raped is extremely creepy.

--------------------

I'll miss Olenna, she was such a badass and had some of the best lines. Really liked the "He really was a cunt" line about Joffrey.

Specifically? No.  She is a known quantitiy from the past, similar to the Night's King. I see paralells to the past and present stories played with often in A Song of Ice and Fire.

My speculation stems from the books and show.  I think in the books  we have Stoneheart and Euron's visions of a pale women.  In the show we have Euron courting Cersei.  Since I also think Jaime will kill Cersei in the books and show I think they will handle it differently.  Human Cersei in book will die by Jaime for similar reasons he killed Aerys. Show Cersei will be turned into a White Walker (The Corpse Queen) taking Stonehearts place and be killed by Jaime in tragic fashion since they have him still loving her in the show.

It's an interesting theory, specially because on the original draft, Catelyn dies beyond the wall at the hands of the White Walkers, so if there was a Lady Stoneheart back on GRRM's plans back then, it probably was the Corpse Queen-like character you envisioned. It's feasible that Cersei could have inherited that plot.

Also it seems like both Euron and Cersei inherited parts of the plot from book Aegon, since Cersei and Euron are trying to hire the Golden Company, and they fight for Aegon on the books, which could hint on a Dany vs. Aegon subplot on TWOW (unless Euron betrays Cersei, which many theorize as well). I guess we'll know for sure by 2019 or so.