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Cerebralbore101 said:
JEMC said:

Maybe you don't know it, or you have decided to ignore it, but Steam Sales are not mandatory. Valve/Steam sends a form to publishers asking them if they want to take part in their sales, which of their games want to put on sale and which discount they want to apply to each game.

So no, Nintendo wouldn't be forced to sell their games $30 a few months after release or anything like that.

Even if they aren't forced into it they will either get their games sold at a massive discount on Kinguin ala currency manipulation, or nobody will buy their games because they will be considered too expensive. 

£55-60 a pop isn't considered expensive for a Nintendo game compared to how the others price theirs?.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

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Cerebralbore101 said:
JEMC said:

Maybe you don't know it, or you have decided to ignore it, but Steam Sales are not mandatory. Valve/Steam sends a form to publishers asking them if they want to take part in their sales, which of their games want to put on sale and which discount they want to apply to each game.

So no, Nintendo wouldn't be forced to sell their games $30 a few months after release or anything like that.

Even if they aren't forced into it they will either get their games sold at a massive discount on Kinguin ala currency manipulation, or nobody will buy their games because they will be considered too expensive. 

Nintendo games are already expensive in their physical form, very, very rarely droping in price even years after their release.

Amd they can also limit, if not avoid, the other problem you mentioned by limiting the stores with access to keys for their games.

 

In any case, Nintendo isn't interested in launching their games on PC because they care about their hardware sales, so there's no need to look for excuses as to why they won't do it.



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JEMC said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Even if they aren't forced into it they will either get their games sold at a massive discount on Kinguin ala currency manipulation, or nobody will buy their games because they will be considered too expensive. 

Nintendo games are already expensive in their physical form, very, very rarely droping in price even years after their release.

Amd they can also limit, if not avoid, the other problem you mentioned by limiting the stores with access to keys for their games.

 

In any case, Nintendo isn't interested in launching their games on PC because they care about their hardware sales, so there's no need to look for excuses as to why they won't do it.

Yeah that too. They make a profit on hardware and accessories. 



Chazore said:
Cerebralbore101 said:

Even if they aren't forced into it they will either get their games sold at a massive discount on Kinguin ala currency manipulation, or nobody will buy their games because they will be considered too expensive. 

£55-60 a pop isn't considered expensive for a Nintendo game compared to how the others price theirs?.

For a digital download that price is highway robbery. I really don't think most people buy their digital games for that price. They either wait for a sale or go to Kinguin. A physical copy runs you $45 off Amazon and Best Buy.



Bristow9091 said:

I just feel like, especially Microsoft anyway, they're taking the appeal of the XBO away from gamers who are happy enough playing on their PC, for example, if we look at Sony, if a PC gamer wants to play Uncharted 4 or Horizon or whatever, they need to buy a PS4, since it's only available there, so they'll buy a PS4, giving Sony another console sale, and they now have another potential customer for all of their other exclusives. If that same PC gamer was interested in Sea of Thieves or Forza 7 (No idea why I'm using these two games as examples, just the first two to come to my head from each platform lol), they could just buy it on PC and wouldn't need to bother buying an XBO, which means Microsoft are losing out on what could have been a potential console sale. 

What I think would be handy, is if they invested in bulking up their first party, as many people have suggested over the years anyway, and have developers that work on PC games, and others on XBO games, that way Microsoft as a whole will have more exclusives, but they'll also have games you can only experience on PC, and games on XBO too... 

It's probably a backwards way of thinking, but it's just what I personally think they'd have to do for someone like me, who owns a gaming PC, to actually fork out for an XBO, since right now there isn't much incentive to own the console, since the exclusives I'm interested in, I can play on my PC too.

Again, purely my opinion on the matter, may sound silly, but I just feel if Microsoft want me to buy an XBO, they need to make games that are ONLY for the XBO. 

PS. If I'm not making any sense, it's probably because it's 7am and I should really head to bed now, so I won't be posting until tomorrow evening now.

The thing is, nobody makes money on console sales directly.  And, since MS is heavily involved in the PC space, they have less incentive to push people to choose an XB1 over a PC.  Yes, I'm sure they'd prefer that you buy on XB than PC, as they're getting a big cut of that XB game purchase.  But, if you're on PC you're likely running Windows, maybe searching with Bing, or making use of other MS products.  So, they're happy to have you gaming on PC too.  

The same does not hold true for Sony or Nintendo, as they receive zero benefit from PC gaming.  



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Cerebralbore101 said:

For a digital download that price is highway robbery. I really don't think most people buy their digital games for that price. They either wait for a sale or go to Kinguin. A physical copy runs you $45 off Amazon and Best Buy.

I find it that way for both physical and gital tbh. I've seen cheaper physical titles from PC, PS4 and X1 compared to Nintendo's prices. Waiting for a Nintendo sale is like waiting for a full blue moon. They don't really do frequent low digital sales, let alone physical. I had to wait a year and a half till Link Between worlds went down a whole £10.



Mankind, in its arrogance and self-delusion, must believe they are the mirrors to God in both their image and their power. If something shatters that mirror, then it must be totally destroyed.

PEEPer0nni said:
Ka-pi96 said:

You just called me silly

I don't buy any PC game unless it's on Steam...

Real japanese gamers don't play on pc. :P

I really doubt that... which platform has the most Japanese visual novels? Oh, it's Windows with over 15.000 visual novels in Japanese language:

https://vndb.org/v/all?q=;fil=lang-ja.plat-win.tagspoil-0;rfil=lang-ja.plat-win;o=a;s=title;p=308



PEEPer0nni said:

Real japanese gamers don't play on pc. :P

No, not that.

Only Western pc games are not poplar in Japan.



Nintendo should release a Virtual Console service on PC, with seventh-gen games and older. At some point, they may enter the PC market.



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