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bluedawgs said:
Nuvendil said:

No, I've just been following these charts a hell of a lot more closely than you have.  Every single time the Switch has been available at regular price it has shot up the list and completely burried everything else.  The system is being sold at a $120 markup and still sales on Amazon are very close between it and a PS4 marked down by $40.  The high demmand for Switch is flat undeniable at the moment.  The PS4's current run at this moment is due to a fire sale.  

I'm not saying the Switch will catch up to the PS4 lifetime.  But I'm very confident the demand *right now* is more than sifficient to beati it *at this present time*.  We'llhave to see about the holidays.

I'm not blinded by anything jack.  The only one not seeing clearly here is you.

 Im not even talking about amazon, im talking about how the Ps4 has been selling this entire year lol. The PS4 has sold like 2 million more than it did last year in the same time frame, its straight beasting, and those numbers came before any "fire sale" on amazon happened. Yeah, I know you're not saying the Switch will catch the PS4 lifetime, I never said you did. I responded to your post claiming that "All the indicators point towards the Switch outselling the PS4" and you gave me nothing other than when the switch gets some stock on amazon, it shoots to number one. That's obvious shit man, a product that has high demand with low stock, will obviously sell out quickly once stock is replenished (especially when the amount of stock. that is replenished is very low). 

 

by the way your first sentence about you following the charts closer than i have is cracking me up cus its so false you have no idea lol

I meant the Amazon charts, I follow them dang near constantly.  And of course the PS4 did better first quarter of 2017 than 2016, it had a crap ton of game releases.  I'm not discrediting anything, just saying your attitude lf the PS4 being this inexplicably powerful sales beast is a false narrative, the hgih sales are not that shocking when all things are considered.  

However, I didn't just point out the way it shoots up charts when stock is available.  The fact it sells the way it does at a $120 markup is just plain bananas.  The fact is every time Switch stock shows up anywhere in the States or Japan (or even several European countries), it's gone in very short order.  They are holding raffles in Japan to win a chance to buy the dang thing.  

So no, indicators of the Switch being in incredibly high demand are clear as day to those who are paying attention to the signs.  This is not to say the PS4 is selling badly or anything.  

And I brought up the fire sale because you didn't strut into this thread with your condescending, insulting, pompous attitude until today, when the PS4 shot to number 1 on the back of a sale issolated to one day at one retailer.  So pardon me if I assumed the timing was of significance.



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Nuvendil said:
bluedawgs said:

 Im not even talking about amazon, im talking about how the Ps4 has been selling this entire year lol. The PS4 has sold like 2 million more than it did last year in the same time frame, its straight beasting, and those numbers came before any "fire sale" on amazon happened. Yeah, I know you're not saying the Switch will catch the PS4 lifetime, I never said you did. I responded to your post claiming that "All the indicators point towards the Switch outselling the PS4" and you gave me nothing other than when the switch gets some stock on amazon, it shoots to number one. That's obvious shit man, a product that has high demand with low stock, will obviously sell out quickly once stock is replenished (especially when the amount of stock. that is replenished is very low). 

 

by the way your first sentence about you following the charts closer than i have is cracking me up cus its so false you have no idea lol

I meant the Amazon charts, I follow them dang near constantly.  And of course the PS4 did better first quarter of 2017 than 2016, it had a crap ton of game releases.  I'm not discrediting anything, just saying your attitude lf the PS4 being this inexplicably powerful sales beast is a false narrative, the hgih sales are not that shocking when all things are considered.  

However, I didn't just point out the way it shoots up charts when stock is available.  The fact it sells the way it does at a $120 markup is just plain bananas.  The fact is every time Switch stock shows up anywhere in the States or Japan (or even several European countries), it's gone in very short order.  They are holding raffles in Japan to win a chance to buy the dang thing.  

So no, indicators of the Switch being in incredibly high demand are clear as day to those who are paying attention to the signs.  This is not to say the PS4 is selling badly or anything.  

And I brought up the fire sale because you didn't strut into this thread with your condescending, insulting, pompous attitude until today, when the PS4 shot to number 1 on the back of a sale issolated to one day at one retailer.  So pardon me if I assumed the timing was of significance.

Bold #1: I know you meant the amazon charts, i look at them constantly as well. Which is why your comment saying you follow them a hell of a lot more than me made me chuckle

Bold #2: I didnt even post in this thread to talk about anything in regards to the PS4's current amazon position, nor do i give a fuck. I posted in here to respond to that Alkibiades dude cus i see his posts all the time and they always manage to annoy the crap out of me cus all of his posts contain something either made up in his head or just straight annoying as fuck. You got mad at me saying that the PS4 is the more wanted console than the Switch and since you're a big Nintendo fan you sprung into defense which is why we're even talking right now



Ps4 is the more wanted console imo



Congratulations, you're wrong.



bluedawgs said:
Nuvendil said:

I meant the Amazon charts, I follow them dang near constantly.  And of course the PS4 did better first quarter of 2017 than 2016, it had a crap ton of game releases.  I'm not discrediting anything, just saying your attitude lf the PS4 being this inexplicably powerful sales beast is a false narrative, the hgih sales are not that shocking when all things are considered.  

However, I didn't just point out the way it shoots up charts when stock is available.  The fact it sells the way it does at a $120 markup is just plain bananas.  The fact is every time Switch stock shows up anywhere in the States or Japan (or even several European countries), it's gone in very short order.  They are holding raffles in Japan to win a chance to buy the dang thing.  

So no, indicators of the Switch being in incredibly high demand are clear as day to those who are paying attention to the signs.  This is not to say the PS4 is selling badly or anything.  

And I brought up the fire sale because you didn't strut into this thread with your condescending, insulting, pompous attitude until today, when the PS4 shot to number 1 on the back of a sale issolated to one day at one retailer.  So pardon me if I assumed the timing was of significance.

Bold #1: I know you meant the amazon charts, i look at them constantly as well. Which is why your comment saying you follow them a hell of a lot more than me made me chuckle

Bold #2: I didnt even post in this thread to talk about anything in regards to the PS4's current amazon position, nor do i give a fuck. I posted in here to respond to that Alkibiades dude cus i see his posts all the time and they always manage to annoy the crap out of me cus all of his posts contain something either made up in his head or just straight annoying as fuck. You got mad at me saying that the PS4 is the more wanted console than the Switch and since you're a big Nintendo fan you sprung into defense which is why we're even talking right now

No, I stepped in because you were using selective facts to construct a misleading narrative, making it sound as if the PS4 were outselling the Switch with no extenuating circumstances.  Which is false and if you had owned up to that, I wouldn't have bothered with this conversation cause if you just think the PS4 is more desired have at it.  Instead you insulted me to my face, pardon me if I took offense.  

And yeah, I like Nintendo's games and enjoy the Switch.  I also call sales like I see them and if you don't know that you clearly don't know me very well and should maybe stop pulling assumptions out of your ass.  I own a PS4, think its a great machine.  Also own a gaming PC.  If I thought the PS4 was more in demand *right now*, I would say so.  I have no qualms with having an unpopular opinion, just like I called it years ago when several people were celebrating the brief Xbone successes on the back of numerous fire sales and I said that it would hurt them in the long run.  I look at the facfs I have and judge on that.  And looking at the hear and now - not 3 months ago, not six months from now, right now - I see the Switch is in really, really high demand.  Whether it will outpace the PS4's demand or sales all year, I don't know, I'm not psychic, and to be frank the Switch's trajectory is hard to predict.  



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Blue I respect your passion for the PS4 but the personal insults and attacks are not needed when having a regular conversation.

OT: That is a great PS4 sale and a great XB1 sale as well! If I didn't already have a PS4 for myself and one for my son I would have taken advantage of that sale!



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Wow this is getting out of hand.

Lets get the facts straight oke?
Switch is selling amazing and its NOT 24/7 out of stock.

Switch is a new gen for Nintendo they abandoned the wiiu,new game system means a lot of sales.

Switch most wanted system or nr1?

Here are the facts.
Switch 4-6 mill?
Ps4 60+mill

Even if somehow a mainline Pokemon makes sure the switch outsells a then what 5-6 year old system does it Matter? It still won't outsell the ps4.

Ps5 will be around the corner.

Jesus stop the freaking crying about a couple ofmonths of good sales.

Switch and ps4 being ontop is amazing.



Jranation said:
Barkley said:

You care that Switch is #1. But you don't care to know when it stops being at #1?

Strange.

j - "Yay switch is #1"

k - "Not anymore."

j - "I DON'T CARE."

Its more of a " I know, but I dont care". Sometimes I do..... but most of the times nah.  Im just saying he could have made a normal post instead of quoting me. 

 

Anyway...... 

Splatoon 2 at #10! 

And Switch SKU at #12 and #36!

Of course you care about what's #1 otherwise you wouldn't mention it. It changed just after you posted the update so i was letting you know and Dq11 ps4 is still #1!

FF12 is actually up to #4 now 

And amazon prime got more stock of the PS4 DQ11 bundle and it's back to #5 already. That thing is going to shift serious units if they can keep it in stock. 



CGI-Quality said:

My take - I do think the Switch is the more desired console in the US, at the moment. Using Amazon's figures, at least. It jumps straight up any time the price even nears the MSRP. All talk of global sales are irrelevant in an Amazon thread. Right now, the PS4 Slim is #1 on Amazon due to the mark down to $229. There is no skirting around that.

As for the insults, please keep them out of here before things have to be escalated, guys. Thanks!

in Europe it could be PS4, but Japan and the US are definitely more hyped for the Nintendo Switch currently. 



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xl-klaudkil said:
Wow this is getting out of hand.

Lets get the facts straight oke?
Switch is selling amazing and its NOT 24/7 out of stock.

Switch is a new gen for Nintendo they abandoned the wiiu,new game system means a lot of sales.

Switch most wanted system or nr1?

Here are the facts.
Switch 4-6 mill?
Ps4 60+mill

Even if somehow a mainline Pokemon makes sure the switch outsells a then what 5-6 year old system does it Matter? It still won't outsell the ps4.

Ps5 will be around the corner.

Jesus stop the freaking crying about a couple ofmonths of good sales.

Switch and ps4 being ontop is amazing.

Yeah i agree. PS4 is the most wanted console right now.