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Something like a Jewish conspiracy.



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Because apparently some of you guys didn't hear it the first two time.

No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No.

And for the people in the back....NO!


Ask this to any businessman that sells a product and they'll laugh at you and then pity you when you tell them you are serious.

Also:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-06-23-heres-why-deliberate-switch-shortages-is-a-ridiculous-notion



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

No. They are having trouble securing components the last I heard. It's silly to suggest that they are intentionally limiting stock of what's supposed to be their bread and butter product.



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SpokenTruth said:
Because apparently some of you guys didn't hear it the first two time.

No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No.

And for the people in the back....NO!


Ask this to any businessman that sells a product and they'll laugh at you and then pity you when you tell them you are serious.

Also:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-06-23-heres-why-deliberate-switch-shortages-is-a-ridiculous-notion

Now if only some of these die hard believers would actually read that article and crucially think about it, everything would be much easier.



GoOnKid said:
SpokenTruth said:
Because apparently some of you guys didn't hear it the first two time.

No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No, No.

And for the people in the back....NO!


Ask this to any businessman that sells a product and they'll laugh at you and then pity you when you tell them you are serious.

Also:
http://www.gamesindustry.biz/articles/2017-06-23-heres-why-deliberate-switch-shortages-is-a-ridiculous-notion

Now if only some of these die hard believers would actually read that article and crucially think about it, everything would be much easier.

They either won't read it, won't consider it critically or they simply have an negative aganda against Nintendo they will pursue at the cost of their integrity and dignity.



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

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KLAMarine said:
Aeolus451 said:

I agree that the switch shortages could have more than one cause or that it's unintentional but then again, the odds that nintendo is using scarcity marketing to help sell the switch is very high considering nintendo's extensive history with  short- *cough scarcity marketing *cough -ages. I'm not looking just at the switch shortages to come up with the idea that nintendo has used and is still using scarcity marketing.

Now I have another question for you: how many of these previous shortages have been confirmed to be instances of scarcity marketing and how were they confirmed to be instances of scarcity marketing?

None have been confirmed. Nintendo creating artificial demand has always been a case of truth through repetition.

The first time massive shortages occured was with the NES hardware and software. There was no independent sales tracker back then, but shipments verify that Nintendo was breaking all previous sales records, so it was clearly not a case of limited supply that caused the shortages, but unprecedented demand. The 1980s were a very different environment with an anti-Japan agenda, because it wasn't only Nintendo who was taking over the video game business which was previously in the hands of Atari, an American company. Japanese cars manufacturers also conquered the American market, various electronics from Japanese companies were on the rise too. The result is that certain people didn't shy away from making stuff up to badmouth Japanese companies; in the video game business specifically, Atari pulled Nintendo into courts for just about everything they could think of.

The next time massive shortages occured was with the DS and the Wii. All the available sales and shipment data points towards a repeat of the NES case. Demand was at a higher level than ever before. The case of the DS is very interesting in particular. The system had a slow first year, but then exploded in its second year and kept shattering sales records. It can be examined that there were no DS shortages until certain games released and caught on, so what has been driving the demand for DS hardware was DS software. Software is the true cause for unprecedented demand, not artificial scarcity. The DS had Nintendogs, Brain Training, Mario Kart DS, Animal Crossing and New Super Mario Bros. which all played a big part in driving interest for DS hardware. The software sales are clear evidence for this.

Once it's established that software is the culprit of shortages, it's worth examining other consoles. Did the NES have a really popular game that everyone wanted to play? Yes, Super Mario Bros. There were sequels to it, plus other high demand games like The Legend of Zelda. Did the Wii have a really popular game that everyone wanted to play? Yes, Wii Sports. What about Switch? Indeed, there's Breath of the Wild which could singlehandedly sell the console and keeps on selling. The NES Classic Mini? The phenomenon from the '80s returned with 30 games for a ridiculously cheap $60. There's too much correlation between high demand software and hardware shortages to entertain the silly idea of artificial shortages.

What's left to address in the list of instances that are deemed as artificial shortages is amiibo. Where does Nintendo's miscalculation with manufacturing come from? It is people who bought the figurines despite not caring for the video game functionality at all. There were more collectors than anticipated.

Now for a different point and that is the tried and true method of turning the tables on Aeolus. Has Sony used scarcity marketing/artificial shortages for PS4, PS VR and PS4 Pro?



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SpokenTruth said:
GoOnKid said:

Now if only some of these die hard believers would actually read that article and crucially think about it, everything would be much easier.

They either won't read it, won't consider it critically or they simply have an negative aganda against Nintendo they will pursue at the cost of their integrity and dignity.

Speaking of integrity, why do you use an article that claims rumored numbers for production increases as official Nintendo statements? The general message of the article may be good, but the supporting evidence looks like reaching when there's no need for reaching. Such things hurt the credibility. Why misrepresent facts when evidence is supposedly easy to come by? This kind of thing can make people believe that evidence doesn't really exist.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Shipments

RolStoppable said:
SpokenTruth said:

They either won't read it, won't consider it critically or they simply have an negative aganda against Nintendo they will pursue at the cost of their integrity and dignity.

Speaking of integrity, why do you use an article that claims rumored numbers for production increases as official Nintendo statements? The general message of the article may be good, but the supporting evidence looks like reaching when there's no need for reaching. Such things hurt the credibility. Why misrepresent facts when evidence is supposedly easy to come by? This kind of thing can make people believe that evidence doesn't really exist.

Because the Wall Street Journal has far more credibility regarding Switch production than a blog post with a conspiracy theory.

And if you can't believe the WSJ's report on Switch production increases based on their word, how can you believe a blog's conspiracy theory based just on their word? 

If neither side provides proof, crediblity and reliability take point. 



Massimus - "Trump already has democrat support."

SpokenTruth said:

Because the Wall Street Journal has far more credibility regarding Switch production than a blog post with a conspiracy theory.

And if you can't believe the WSJ's report on Switch production increases based on their word, how can you believe a blog's conspiracy theory based just on their word? 

If neither side provides proof, crediblity and reliability take point. 

You have a point here, but if you link something that contains an error, you should still point it out.



Legend11 correctly predicted that GTA IV (360+PS3) would outsell SSBB. I was wrong.

A Biased Review Reloaded / Open Your Eyes / Switch Shipments

Call me crazy, but I kinda believe that. It has happened with some of their platforms before, not to mention with the Amiibos.