For those arguing that the Gamecube was better because it recieved a majority of the Dreamcast's best games after the DC had left the market, ask yourself this; is the Wii a better console than the NES, SNES, N64, Turbo Grafix-16, Sega Master System, Sega Genesis and Neo Geo because the Virtual Console contains a good majority of the quality library each system posessed after each console had left the market? The scenario is the same. Had the Sega Dreamcast not gone off the market, GC would have never recieved those games and had the entire VC console competitors not have gone off the market, the VC wouldn't have recieved those games.

You should be taking each library as it's own at the time it was released, minus those strange instances where libraries intersect, because for all accounts it's really not a fair argument. 

I loved the dreamcast! I bought it just to play Street Fighter 3!

I bought a Gamecube to play MGS: Twin Snakes, but wasnt a huge fan of the other games it put out, except for Zelda: TP at the end of its life.

The Gamecube was way better even though I still loved it. Nintendo's first party titles alone make it better.

GameCube, simply because of the games. Wind Waker, Twilight Princess, Mario Sunshine, Resident Evil 0, Remake and 4, Eternal Darkness, SSB Melee, Pikmin 1&2, Viewtiful Joe 1&2, MK Double Dash, Soul Calibur 2 (with Link), Four Sword Adventures, the Rogue Squadrons, Baten Kaitos, Animal Crossing, F-Zero GX, 1080 Avalanche, Mario Tennis, Metroid Prime 1&2, MGS Twin Snakes, Paper Mario TTYD, Starfox... Too many good games!

i prefered my gamecube

Dreamcast! It's one of my favorite consols of all time!

I traded a Vectrex to get my Dreamcast. I happened across a Gamecube.

The DC was a system I just wanted to have. Lots of great games. I only tried the online after Sega shut things down but was still able to find some Unreal action. And it was less laggy than some of my recent SSBB matches. It had the first graphics that made me go "Wow" with gameplay to back it up.

It also was undersupported by third parties. Many of its better games found homes on other consoles after its demise. The games did not progress as much as on other consoles as far as visual quality (Soul Calibur was a launch title and still holds up). Wireless controllers are almost impossible to find (and yes they do exist, I have a pair). The memory cards ate batteries.

I have roughly 150 games for the system, including homebrews. (The DC also is a pirate's dream -- part of the reason for its demise).

Meanwhile, I just wanted a few games for my Gamecube. I slowly picked up this and that. And realized just how good it was. I also got the Wavebird controllers and cleared out the cords.

I have roughly 75 games for the system.

I stilled play my GC -- it was in place until I got my Wii. My DC is put away.

The DC is like a fling. The GC is like a spouse.

Mike from Morgantown

Onyxmeth said: For those arguing that the Gamecube was better because it recieved a majority of the Dreamcast's best games after the DC had left the market, ask yourself this; is the Wii a better console than the NES, SNES, N64, Turbo Grafix-16, Sega Master System, Sega Genesis and Neo Geo because the Virtual Console contains a good majority of the quality library each system posessed after each console had left the market? The scenario is the same. Had the Sega Dreamcast not gone off the market, GC would have never recieved those games and had the entire VC console competitors not have gone off the market, the VC wouldn't have recieved those games. You should be taking each library as it's own at the time it was released, minus those strange instances where libraries intersect, because for all accounts it's really not a fair argument.

This arguement doesnt make a lot of sense. We are looking back at the entire life span of both systems so why wouldnt the entire systems libraby be taken into account. Thats like excluding RE:4 from the PS2 or Lost Planet from the PS3s game librabies because they were released first on another system. Why exclude great games regardless of how they got there? I consider Ikaruga to be one of the best Gamecube titles even though it started as a Dreamcast exclusive. And yes i believe that all of the virtual console titles should be included in the Wiis library of avialable games too. Should we exclude Xbox 360 arcade games from its appeal? I agree that the Dreamcast had a vastly superior library at launch and if it didnt die prematurely it could have easily surpassed the Gamecube but the fact is that it didnt.

Crabmaster2000 said: Onyxmeth said: For those arguing that the Gamecube was better because it recieved a majority of the Dreamcast's best games after the DC had left the market, ask yourself this; is the Wii a better console than the NES, SNES, N64, Turbo Grafix-16, Sega Master System, Sega Genesis and Neo Geo because the Virtual Console contains a good majority of the quality library each system posessed after each console had left the market? The scenario is the same. Had the Sega Dreamcast not gone off the market, GC would have never recieved those games and had the entire VC console competitors not have gone off the market, the VC wouldn't have recieved those games. You should be taking each library as it's own at the time it was released, minus those strange instances where libraries intersect, because for all accounts it's really not a fair argument. This arguement doesnt make a lot of sense. We are looking back at the entire life span of both systems so why wouldnt the entire systems libraby be taken into account. Thats like excluding RE:4 from the PS2 or Lost Planet from the PS3s game librabies because they were released first on another system. Why exclude great games regardless of how they got there? I consider Ikaruga to be one of the best Gamecube titles even though it started as a Dreamcast exclusive. And yes i believe that all of the virtual console titles should be included in the Wiis library of avialable games too. Should we exclude Xbox 360 arcade games from its appeal? I agree that the Dreamcast had a vastly superior library at launch and if it didnt die prematurely it could have easily surpassed the Gamecube but the fact is that it didnt.

That's fine. I don't condemn you for thinking that way. My point was to not disqualify the Dreamcast for having it's library horded out AFTER it's end if you weren't going to do the same for systems like the SNES, Genesis, etc. in direct comparison to the Wii. I'm sure most of the people that put up the arguement would never consider the Wii over the SNES just because games were posthumously released on the Virtual Console, but since you do then you have a valid reason to compare in that way. Simple as that. My argument makes perfect sense as it's showing a possible contradiction in others' arguements. Obviously not yours so leave it at that.

 

Jlaff said: Onyxmeth said: Dreamcast by miles. Many, many miles. The Gamecube was a flawed concept of a console with no discernible reason for why it existed other than to follow the PS2 into the next generation. The Dreamcast was innovative beyond belief and helped shape the online landscape of today's consoles, and still has a better online experience than the Wii somehow, let alone the 4 games that were online capable on the Cube. Dreamcast was also built around arcade boards tech which made porting arcade games to the Dreamcast a very simple process. For those of us who grew up in the arcades, this was a huge win.  I second this.

 I'll third this. The Dreamcast really brought "new" to the gaming world. For a site that has so many Wii fanatics praying at the temple of "innovation," I'm somewhat surprised people are so overwhelmingly in favor of the Cube. What's something new that Nintendo brought to the table last generation? 

 Don't get me wrong. I love my Gamecube because it had some great games. However, they were all really just refined and well-executed N64 updates that took years on end to actually be released. In just 2 years, Sega pumped out some of the best and most interesting games. DC takes the win.