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No doubt, the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X will enhance the graphics/resolution/frame rate....but the point I was trying to make, is that they were trying to sell us the Xbox One X based on how great the games looked....in short, they didn't look great compared to what Sony had on offer.

So the main point I was making is that if you are trying to get us all to buy into getting the One X, then showcase some games that prove the point that it's SO much better than what's out there. They didn't.



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

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Barkley said:
Dulfite said:
I've always thought Microsoft building a before its time expensive 4k console was stupid. I mean, what % of people have 4k televisions, anyway?

I just read on one website that by 2016, 12.5% of homes will have one 4k tv. That isn't a ton. Not to mention, I'd imagine the majority of those that can afford that type of tv are older than the video game generation right now (probably in their 50s or higher). Gamers by in large aren't rich and can't afford these tvs. The xbox One should have come in 5-10 years. We don't need 4k now.

I heard these figures yesterday, I have no source because I don't remember where I heard it just remember the numbers. xD

I think it was 29% of gamers playing on a 4k TV, and 18% said they were looking to upgrade to a 4k TV in the next year.

Could have sworn Michael Pacter said it was like 10% of homes, and that by end of this year it might be around 20%.

In a interview he had with Geoff at E3.



Barkley said:
Dulfite said:
I've always thought Microsoft building a before its time expensive 4k console was stupid. I mean, what % of people have 4k televisions, anyway?

I just read on one website that by 2016, 12.5% of homes will have one 4k tv. That isn't a ton. Not to mention, I'd imagine the majority of those that can afford that type of tv are older than the video game generation right now (probably in their 50s or higher). Gamers by in large aren't rich and can't afford these tvs. The xbox One should have come in 5-10 years. We don't need 4k now.

I heard these figures yesterday, I have no source because I don't remember where I heard it just remember the numbers. xD

I think it was 29% of gamers playing on a 4k TV, and 18% said they were looking to upgrade to a 4k TV in the next year.

Well that's higher then the general population, which is surprising to me considering most gamers are in the teens to late twenties and don't typically have careers or are just getting started so probably couldn't afford those tvs, but I guess I'm wrong.



JRPGfan said:

Could have sworn Michael Pacter said it was like 10% of homes, and that by end of this year it might be around 20%.

In a interview he had with Geoff at E3.

Likely a different survery, think I heard mine on Kinda-Funny Preshow for microsofts con. But also mine was specifically about gamers, pachter may be talking about everyone.



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JRPGfan said:
vivster said:
Yes, it's also why AMD and Nvidia will apply for bankruptcy after this E3 because no one needs higher graphical fidelity than what is possible on the PS4. I mean look at those idiots with their 1080s playing games at 4k/60fps when the eye can't even see past 360p/24fps.

3DS is fine machine (240p?)

Seriously though.... theres a argument to be made for 4k gameing.

By next gen, Playstation 5 / Xbox Two, it ll be the normal resolution of games.

 

Majora's Mask (3ds) looks like a new game in 4k (emulation).

Yea but with the same resolution, will the Xbox Two be successful or will people just treat it like a middle child because the Ps5 will actually look much better than the PS4/Ps4 Pro? I can't imagine the Xbox Two will be that much better than Scorpio, unless it comes like 5 years after Scorpio launch.



Let me just say that God Of War on PS4 Slim in 1080p ($249) looks breathtaking, while Crackdown 3 on Xbox Scorpio X in 4K ($499) looks like 2007 game.



The numbers for 4K tv's are very low. I fully expect good penetration in a few years, but just feel the PS4 Pro and Xbox One X are just a little too soon. Also the increase in hardware is only just about enough to allow for the upgrade from 900p/1080p to 4k with a few extras. So we won't realistically see some serious graphical enhancements until there is alot more power under the hood....so in short NO, not even 6tf of graphical power is enough to get us to the next level.



Prediction (June 12th 2017)

Permanent pricedrop for both PS4 Slim and PS4 Pro in October.

PS4 Slim $249 (October 2017)

PS4 Pro $349 (October 2017)

Let's just think of it this way. If the game looks good on the base PS4 it will looks even better on the Pro.



A handheld gamer only (for now).

Define "chances"?

What did people expect XB1X would do really? It was always going to target a niche audience. Just like PS4 Pro.
Even if something were to tae away sales from it, it was always going to be a low volume of sales to begin with.
And I'm sure Microsoft were counting on that.