thismeintiel said:
foxtail said:
thismeintiel said:
Then, can you explain away the decent legs the PS1 saw after the PS2 launched? Sure, they weren't as good as PS2's, but it still sold 23M from 2001-2004, after the PS2 was launched WW. I think the PS4 is going to do something similar.
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In May of 2002 Sony cut its official price of the PS1 to clearence-like pricing of only $49/£49 MSRP.
That was a cut of 1/6 of the PS1 launch price of $299.
An official price cut of 1/6 of the launch price doesn't happen very often, if at all.
Without it's official $49/£49 price points the PS1 likely would not have crossed the 100M mark before the end.
To put that in perspective most other new games at that time were also $50 or more. Conker's Bad Fur Day launched a year earlier in March of 2001 on the N64 for a MSRP 69.95 USD.
So the PS1 was effectivly as cheap as a new game (or cheaper) from 2002 onward. Buy a disc/cart game, or for the same price buy a console with controller.
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Price is only one factor for a system to sell. If price was the only thing needed to stay selling so well, the GC should have at least sold twice as much as it did, as it dropped to $99 long before the PS2 did.
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The $99 Gamecube comes up all the time..
But the $99 Gamecube didn't exist in a bubble, most people don't remember but the DVD capable PS2 was very cheap as well.
After the $99 price cut on the Gamecube the PS2 was on average only ~$51 more expensive.
The PS2 was also on average only ~$54 more expensive than the Gamecube throughout the Gamecube's lifespan.
~$50 wasn't much of a premium to get the extra ability of a fully functioning DVD movie player.
Price is important, but so is the price and demand of all competing products (which could include products from the same company).
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Date
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Gamecube Price
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PS2 price
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~Price difference
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November 2001
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$199 (launch price)
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$299
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~6 months $100
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May 2002
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$149 (-$50)
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$199 (-$100)
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~12 months $50
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May 2003
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$149
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$179 (-$20)
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~4 months $30
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September 2003
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$99 (-$50)
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$179
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~8 months $80
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May 2004
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$99
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$149 (-$30)
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~23 months $50
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April 2006
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$99
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$129 (-$20)
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~10 months $30
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Feb 2007
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$99 discontinued
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$129
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-
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April 2009
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-
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$99 (-$30)
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-
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thismeintiel said:
The hilarious thing to me is how some Nintendo fans act like the Wii pulled off some undoable feat, completely ignoring that both the PS1 and PS2 outsold the Wii. Even the PS3, which had just about everything going against it (high price and lesser 3rd party ports for the first year), came within 15M of it. Which means that as far as that 20M less than the Wii bet goes, that's as good as won. Hell, it'll be ~20M-22M less than the Wii by March of next year. And even if the PS5 launches in late 2019, that'll be 1 1/2 more years for the PS4 to sell without its successor on the market.
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According to Sony the PS1 production ended at 102.49M
The Wii is at 101.63M and with the PS1 at 102.49M there's only a 0.86M difference between the Wii and PS1.
Less than 1 Million is not that much and if the Wii cut its price earlier it would have had more than 101.63M easily.
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Nintendo also actually kept the Wii above the $199 USD price point for a longer period than Sony kept the PS2 above $199.
thus resulted,
Sony sold around 11 Million PS2s in the NA region before it dropped to $199, it ended up selling 50 Million plus there.
So close to 80% of PS2 sold in that region were sold for $199 or less.
to compare,
Nintendo sold ~26 Million Wii in the America region before it dropped to $199, it ended up selling 48 Million plus there.
So less than 50% of Wii sold in that region were sold for $199 or less.
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Nintendo could have done more to boost Wii sales, but the Wii did sell a lot in a short amount of time.
The other HD consoles had the weight of the industry behind them, the Wii did not.
Overall, what the Wii did was impressive for the time.
