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Should Trump stay or not?

Yes, stay 119 50.42%
 
No, don't stay 102 43.22%
 
Not sure 15 6.36%
 
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StarOcean on 01 June 2017
Aeolus451 said:
spurgeonryan said:

Did you see the speech he gave and then research what he said?

It's obvious that most of them didn't and the few that did watch it, didn't bother checking into anything. 

Yeah they have and thats why they know its shit what he did



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robzo100 on 01 June 2017

This topic inspired me to make this - EarthBound Background ;)



TargaryenVers2 on 01 June 2017

If we can't and don't work with other countries we lose our influence more and more. Even if you don't believe in it, it's politically and economically damaging to not work on this. Green energy is the future, and the US is going to be the Blockbuster of the UN



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StarOcean on 01 June 2017
TargaryenVers2 said:
If we can't and don't work with other countries we lose our influence more and more. Even if you don't believe in it, it's politically and economically damaging to not work on this. Green energy is the future, and the US is going to be the Blockbuster of the UN

There's plenty of people who have shown theyd rather suck on Trumps dick and agree with everything he does than use reason. Theyre a cult 



jason1637 on 01 June 2017

Meh we can still go green without this agreement.



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bettergetdave on 01 June 2017

I agree with the OP. Also really good point about him doing it strategically. I think he is way more strategic than people give him credit for. I think we should opt out. Scientist have been telling me the world is going to end due to pollution since the early 80s. I think taking care of the environment is good but not at an extreme expense to the economy. Further I don't agree with those that say we are sacrificing economic security today for millions of lost lives later. You have no way of knowing that and it is your opinion and that is it. 



SuaveSocialist on 01 June 2017
spurgeonryan said:
SuaveSocialist said:
By backing out the deal, West Korea is disadvantaged on international trade. Not only that, the DPRA will be far less competitive in the global market for cleaner energy. Even aside from the growing expenses that damage resulting from climate change causes, Beloved Leader's failure to be a leader is going to hurt the economy and taxpayers by proxy---to a much greater extent than the burdens of living up to the agreement. The international community is looking at the DPRA as a rogue nation, and that means the DPRA will be negotiating from a position of weakness on any future agreements, right alongside Syria and Nicaragua. Judging the content of Beloved Leader's speech regarding his latest cock-up in a long, unbroken chain of bad/dumb s, he probably didn't even read what was in the Paris Climate Agreement.

Did you see the speech he gave and then research what he said?

The other way around, actually; I researched the contents of the Climate Agreement and how it affects the countries involved before Beloved Leader even gave his speech.  He should have done the same thing; Beloved Leader's words had difficulties overlapping Reality, as is tradition.  




TorterraBoy on 01 June 2017

His production on the wall will make it even worse, hopefully the wall doesn't actually get appealed, that would be stupid. Fuck trump and his raisin brain, climate change is real and its because of humans, America primarily. If Trump won't make the change then we have to.



IkePoR on 01 June 2017
bettergetdave said:

I agree with the OP. Also really good point about him doing it strategically. I think he is way more strategic than people give him credit for. I think we should opt out. Scientist have been telling me the world is going to end due to pollution since the early 80s. I think taking care of the environment is good but not at an extreme expense to the economy. Further I don't agree with those that say we are sacrificing economic security today for millions of lost lives later. You have no way of knowing that and it is your opinion and that is it. 

Science is not an opinion.



"You should be banned. Youre clearly flaming the president and even his brother who you know nothing about. Dont be such a partisan hack"

pleaserecycle on 02 June 2017
Jpcc86 said:
pleaserecycle said:

But it's not.  Over 30% of electricity in the US is generated from coal.  Another 30% comes from fossil fuels.

Yes, down from 52.89% that it was just as early as 2000, thats why it is a dying industry. And year after year its steadily declining. 

I reread my post and I realized it might sound like I'm pro-coal.  I'd like coal phased out, but it's still such a large contributor to the US electricity output and there aren't many viable alternatives.  Renewable sources are not sufficient in their current state.  If the US wants to be coal-free, it will need to outsource a large portion of its electricity (which will most likely come from coal or oil anyways).  

edit:  Also, I'm sorry if it felt like I was singling you out.  There were many people discussing coal and your post was one of the last ones I read.