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Soundwave on 01 June 2017
Miyamotoo said:
Nintendo is dont right thing with Switch, in modern age people have less and less time to play at home home console for couple hours, while Switch offers plenty of possibilities of play that suits to different lifestyles of people, and thats future for gaming market (at least for Nintendo).
There is reason why mobile phones and tablets are so much popular while PCs and laptops are in decline.

Yes but it's not that simple. 

Switch is a new type of product designed with the reality of competing against mobile low-end gaming too ... which has cratered the traditional portable gamine market. 

Switch brings console sized experiences to the road, it brings console style local multiplayer to the road ... it has one of the most advanced mobile chips available inside of it. It is a $300 system, not a budget toy. I mean I guess they tried $250 for the 3DS for about 3 months before bailing out, but Switch is legimately in the higher end price bracket and is going to stay there because it warrants the higher price as a premium device, again a type of mobile device Nintendo has never made before. 

Switch is not low-tech ... it's the highest end possible mobile chip they could have chosen at the time they chose to make the system. In a mass consumer device it's still probably the most powerful mobile processor available in anything below like $500. 



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Qwark on 01 June 2017
RolStoppable said:
Switch is the future for consoles. Consumers prefer laptops and tablets over desktop PCs, so it only makes sense for consoles to follow this trend.

It's why Nintendo is well-positioned for the future, because they are already there. Microsoft isn't going to care because they are decentralizing Xbox and moving towards games as a service. Sony is the company that will have to think hard how they go about things because they are reliant on AAA third party software, but said software publishers aren't going to be satisfied with the technological limitations that portability brings with it; stick with stationary home consoles to secure support, go the Switch route with reduced support or try to juggle a home console and a hybrid. Needless to say, the last option constitutes a major disadvantage because Nintendo won't have any problems to fend off a halfbaked Sony solution.

Yeah that mentallity did cost Nintendo the 5th and 6th gen. Playstation is going to make homeconsoles and like the PS4 they will continue to sell good. There is still a market for homeconsoles the PS4 pulling a 185k week in April pretty much proves that. If Sony is smart though they are going to be a company that is going to follow microsoft and just abandon hardware and go towards the pc platform. There will always be a market for people that like tech over anything else. Besides they can just put PS now on every tablet and make a small controller, than you can have PS games on the go as well.



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leo-j on 01 June 2017
RolStoppable said:
Switch is the future for consoles. Consumers prefer laptops and tablets over desktop PCs, so it only makes sense for consoles to follow this trend.

It's why Nintendo is well-positioned for the future, because they are already there. Microsoft isn't going to care because they are decentralizing Xbox and moving towards games as a service. Sony is the company that will have to think hard how they go about things because they are reliant on AAA third party software, but said software publishers aren't going to be satisfied with the technological limitations that portability brings with it; stick with stationary home consoles to secure support, go the Switch route with reduced support or try to juggle a home console and a hybrid. Needless to say, the last option constitutes a major disadvantage because Nintendo won't have any problems to fend off a halfbaked Sony solution.

I think switch is an excellent concept for consoles moving foraward, but I definitely think games a service is the future.....

 

PS NOW and Xbox play anywhere are going to take off as streaming becomes better and better 



 

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Soundwave on 01 June 2017
leo-j said:
RolStoppable said:
Switch is the future for consoles. Consumers prefer laptops and tablets over desktop PCs, so it only makes sense for consoles to follow this trend.

It's why Nintendo is well-positioned for the future, because they are already there. Microsoft isn't going to care because they are decentralizing Xbox and moving towards games as a service. Sony is the company that will have to think hard how they go about things because they are reliant on AAA third party software, but said software publishers aren't going to be satisfied with the technological limitations that portability brings with it; stick with stationary home consoles to secure support, go the Switch route with reduced support or try to juggle a home console and a hybrid. Needless to say, the last option constitutes a major disadvantage because Nintendo won't have any problems to fend off a halfbaked Sony solution.

I think switch is an excellent concept for consoles moving foraward, but I definitely think games a service is the future.....

 

PS NOW and Xbox play anywhere are going to take off as streaming becomes better and better 

The next generation is probably the last one in a lot of ways. Been a fun ride though I guess, especially for those of us to got to see the 80s and 90s. 

By 2027 or so I think you'll have more widespread adoption of 1 gigabit+ ultra high speed internet, which will bring about the creation of a Netflix style gaming service that requires no hardware but a $30 Bluetooth controller. And it will probably be an Apple or Samsung or even Netflix themselves that controls it, not a Nintendo or even Sony.



Qwark on 01 June 2017
leo-j said:
RolStoppable said:
Switch is the future for consoles. Consumers prefer laptops and tablets over desktop PCs, so it only makes sense for consoles to follow this trend.

It's why Nintendo is well-positioned for the future, because they are already there. Microsoft isn't going to care because they are decentralizing Xbox and moving towards games as a service. Sony is the company that will have to think hard how they go about things because they are reliant on AAA third party software, but said software publishers aren't going to be satisfied with the technological limitations that portability brings with it; stick with stationary home consoles to secure support, go the Switch route with reduced support or try to juggle a home console and a hybrid. Needless to say, the last option constitutes a major disadvantage because Nintendo won't have any problems to fend off a halfbaked Sony solution.

I think switch is an excellent concept for consoles moving foraward, but I definitely think games a service is the future.....

 

PS NOW and Xbox play anywhere are going to take off as streaming becomes better and better 

Imagine when 5G network arrives and every tablet, laptop and even mobile phones can play PS games trough PS now with ease. Sony can try to re-enter the tablet market with a tablet more dedicated to work with PS now. That's the future Sony should be focussing on and making high-end consoles for the tech fans to release their games on in 4K/HDR. With a code so you can also play those games on the go on a tablet if it is linked to your PSN(+) account.



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Soundwave on 01 June 2017
Qwark said:
leo-j said:

I think switch is an excellent concept for consoles moving foraward, but I definitely think games a service is the future.....

 

PS NOW and Xbox play anywhere are going to take off as streaming becomes better and better 

Imagine when 5G network arrives and every tablet, laptop and even mobile phones can play PS games trough PS now with ease. Sony can try to re-enter the tablet market with a tablet more dedicated to work with PS now. That's the future Sony should be focussing on and making high-end consoles for the tech fans to release their games on in 4K/HDR. With a code so you can also play those games on the go on a tablet if it is linked to your PSN(+) account.

If that happens, really what's actually going to happen is a company like Apple or Samsung or Netflix or cable conglomerates will just offer a large ala carte service with movies/TV/games for like one price. 

Smaller companies like Sony and Nintendo will get pushed aside. Their value is in a market that's reliant on hardware, if that becomes unncessary it's like Blockbuster Video in a world of video streamed movies. 



xl-klaudkil on 01 June 2017
Soundwave said:
leo-j said:

I think switch is an excellent concept for consoles moving foraward, but I definitely think games a service is the future.....

 

PS NOW and Xbox play anywhere are going to take off as streaming becomes better and better 

The next generation is probably the last one in a lot of ways. Been a fun ride though I guess, especially for those of us to got to see the 80s and 90s. 

By 2027 or so I think you'll have more widespread adoption of 1 gigabit+ ultra high speed internet, which will bring about the creation of a Netflix style gaming service that requires no hardware but a $30 Bluetooth controller. And it will probably be an Apple or Samsung or even Netflix themselves that controls it, not a Nintendo or even Sony.

Soo how is Samsung  or netflix  going  to acquire  the big  sony  franchises? 

 

Nope sony and  Nintendo 's focus  will be hugely about  creator  more and more exclusive games.

 

Ofcourse  when streaming  and or digital  only  happens  it's  time to ditch new gen gaming  :)



 

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Soundwave on 01 June 2017
xl-klaudkil said:
Soundwave said:

The next generation is probably the last one in a lot of ways. Been a fun ride though I guess, especially for those of us to got to see the 80s and 90s. 

By 2027 or so I think you'll have more widespread adoption of 1 gigabit+ ultra high speed internet, which will bring about the creation of a Netflix style gaming service that requires no hardware but a $30 Bluetooth controller. And it will probably be an Apple or Samsung or even Netflix themselves that controls it, not a Nintendo or even Sony.

Soo how is Samsung  or netflix  going  to acquire  the big  sony  franchises? 

 

Nope sony and  Nintendo 's focus  will be hugely about  creator  more and more exclusive games.

 

Ofcourse  when streaming  and or digital  only  happens  it's  time to ditch new gen gaming  :)

What big Sony franchises? They have like one (Uncharted). 

The rest are third party IP they all could run off PC servers. 

If streaming is the future, Nintendo will probably try for a few years to run their own service and get people to pay seperately basically to be able to play their staple of IP. If that doesn't take then they'll probably just cut a deal with Apple or Netflix or whoever but continue to sell their own line of accessories and controllers. 



JRPGfan on 01 June 2017
RolStoppable said:
Switch is the future for consoles. Consumers prefer laptops and tablets over desktop PCs, so it only makes sense for consoles to follow this trend.

Consumers also prefer graphics, and love a good bargin (high performance for price).

Those things lend themselfs more to a traditional consol than the hybrid / switch formula does.

Id say both methodes are okay.

 

all I know is if Sony does a portable device, it needs to be able to run native PS4 games (digital ones).

or come with a dock, that has a disc drive, and be able to install PS4 games.

Maybe at 10nm with a new APU tech, and running at a slightly lower resolution, sony could do that.



piopakk on 01 June 2017

Switch will probably never get downsized or getting a version 2.0. Look historically on Nintendo consoles. They never do a slim or 2.0 version. It's just not part of their business model. But of course times changes, but I don't see it happen.
Instead I think Nintendo will eventually kill of the 3DS platform, in favor of the switch. Or at least they need to think hard on how those two platforms can coexist in the future, instead of cannibalizing each other, as I believe they somewhat do.