What's interesting is that on PlayStation apparently, European sales beats NA sales on pretty much every game in this Top 30. Sonyland indeed.
I keep telling people and Sony fans just want to ignore it and use the same excuse that sony have a lot of diversity so of course it sell low. Nintendo handhelds have the same diversity, people do not want to count it, but it do have the same diversity, many different type of games, even brain training games sony do not have and even those out sell Sony 1st party. Diversity do not play a huge factor, its all comes down to what people enjoy, and out of all the systems Nintendo 1st party are enjoyed the most. Uncharted numbers are inflated because it was sold with the system, before it was sold with the system it was around 2 million something, if you want to be generous you can add some numbers to it and say it had 3 million sales before bundle, but either way that number is small compared to what Wii U 1st party and other Nintendo 1st party
Miyamotoo said:
Point is that those exclusives are not so important like you think, and that people actually are buying PS4 for 3rd party games on 1st place, sales clearly proves that. |
Ok, now it gets ridiculous. Of course people are buying more 3rd party games than 1st party games because there simply is more of them. Just because I put more stuff on top of my fridge than inside it does not mean I didn't specifically buy it for the stuff I put into it.
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Gravity Rush 2 is the only Sony first party game I bought. Tearaway I got from PS+. Rest of my games are 3rd party.
Barkley said:
3rd Party games selling more does not prove that 1st Party isn't important. If PS4 had no 1st-party exclusives then it would drop like a stone. Why choose a ps4 over an XBO, when XBO would have every game PS4 has and exclusives such as Halo and Forza ontop of that. That is NOT proof. |
I didnt said isnt important at all, but its clearly its not importan like people think, if that isnt case PS4 wouldnt had on 3 1st party games in top 30 best selling games. Most people choose PS4 over XB1 because 3rd party games are working better and higher resolution for same money.
SkyerIst_Huiesos said:
your statement sounds so wrong, i can sell one console with only one game and the attach rate will be 100 %. so what ? it doesn't change anything, only PR useless words. Btw, cand you give me the defition for popular ? how do you know that the exclusive is popular or not ? (exact numbers, pls, to understand how it works for you) |
Evre console has hundreds of games and you look attach rate and compare them or compare sales on same platform.
GTA V has 25% attach rate on PS4, U4 has attach rate around 15% on same console, it's very obvious that GTA is more popular than U4 on PS4.
bananaking21 said:
Alright dude. how about we cut the hypocrisy, the inconsistency, the lack of logic, the stupidity, and stop moving goal posts to try drive an agenda, shall we? your OWN OP uses SALES to try detrmine the POPULARITY of first party games on PS4. then somehow you want to drive the agenda that Zelda > GTA5 so you use attatch rate. you flat out contradict yourself. your original OP has no mention of attatch rate what so ever. im sure you are going to edit that shortly though. more people have GTA5 on PS4 then people have zelda on switch. thats literally how you measure popularity. MORE PEOPLE HAVE IT. ITS LITERALLY MORE POPULAR. thats a fact. attatch rate means shit. |
I talking about clear facts and gave you clear numbers.
I dont want to drive agenda Zelda>GTAV, I used that comparison like example that attach rate doesn't mean better sales, Zelda BotW has better attach rate than GTA V but of course that GTA V has much better sales. And on you same platform you even don't need attach rate, you could just compare sales between PS4 games from list.
GTAV has 25% attach rate on PS4, U4 has attach rate around 15% on same console, so it's very obvious that GTA is more popular than U4 on PS4. You can't really compare popularity of one game one platform that has instal base of 60m and popularity of one game that has instal base of around 3m, thats why you need to use attach rate for comparisons like those.
vivster said:
Ok, now it gets ridiculous. Of course people are buying more 3rd party games than 1st party games because there simply is more of them. Just because I put more stuff on top of my fridge than inside it does not mean I didn't specifically buy it for the stuff I put into it. |
And because they are more of them people buying PS4 more because 3rd party games, very simple.
| Gemmol31 said: I keep telling people and Sony fans just want to ignore it and use the same excuse that sony have a lot of diversity so of course it sell low. Nintendo handhelds have the same diversity, people do not want to count it, but it do have the same diversity, many different type of games, even brain training games sony do not have and even those out sell Sony 1st party. Diversity do not play a huge factor, its all comes down to what people enjoy, and out of all the systems Nintendo 1st party are enjoyed the most. Uncharted numbers are inflated because it was sold with the system, before it was sold with the system it was around 2 million something, if you want to be generous you can add some numbers to it and say it had 3 million sales before bundle, but either way that number is small compared to what Wii U 1st party and other Nintendo 1st party |
while this is true, let's not forget that
a) nintendo brand is much older than playstation, as are their franchises
b) this and next year we will get Gran Turismo, God of war, Spider man which are huge ( they got tens of millions of views on youtube )
c) Sony has a lot of new ip's, compared to Nintendo
Sony's 1st party games sell well enough and they bring a diversity of games to the playstation library so a wide variety of gamers will have something to enjoy. Add in 3rd party games to the pool and it becomes a near-perfect game library. It's a part of the appeal of sony's consoles.
Nintendo specializes in kid games and games centered around nostalgia. Anyone who buys nintendo consoles is doing it for those kind of 1st party games and not for anything else because nintendo's consoles have virtually no 3rd party support.
| naruball said: That's some weird logic. Ps consoles sell well because of diversity. Looking at the top 30, I only own FFXV. Nothing else. And yet I own more than 100 games already. I'm sure that's the case for many people. Just because a game sells 1m or even less, it doesn't mean it's not a system seller. Someone may have bought a ps4 for Nino Kuni 2, others for Until Dawn. Bottom line, it has such a strong catalogue that ignoring it (as well as all the psn games) and focusing on the best performing games makes little to no sense. |
Pretty much this.
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Evre console has hundreds of games and you look attach rate and compare them or compare sales on same platform. GTA V has 25% attach rate on PS4, U4 has attach rate around 15% on same console, it's very obvious that GTA is more popular than U4 on PS4.
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this is bullshit, the attach rate has nothing to do with the popularity (i gave you an example on last page).
when you are talking about popularity, the main criteria is the number of sales. So, i repeat once again, because you wrote in the title
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