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binary solo on 25 May 2017
tbone51 said:
binary solo said:

Zelda doing well is a surprise?

Well yes. It really is, considering its over 588k retail and wiiu version is chugging along and its still one of the best sellers.

 

Your saying that because its zelda, but zelda isnt as strong as you think as a franchise compared to the west. BotW is doing very well. I think many put it around 400k-500k lifetime in japan before launch. With some optimistic saying 600k+. Here we are with zelda doing 12k+ with hardware being limited almost 3 months after release

When the 3rd best selling Switch game is 1 2 Switch, then I think Zelda's success in a country that is a bit less enamoured by Zelda historically is as much down to limited choices in good games than necessarily a sudden and unexpected love for Zelda in Japan. It's possible BotW would be selling as historically expected if it was selling into a more fleshed out, varied and better quality game library.

Mediocre games benefit from early gen release by having little competition (Knack on PS4 anyone?). Good games would also benefit.



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tbone51 on 25 May 2017

So lawlight derails again and some smh. Positive nintendo news really urks some people huh :/



Lawlight on 25 May 2017
RolStoppable said:
Lawlight said:

Increased Switch production was visible in March when they shipped 700k units more than initially planned.

Clearly, you don't know how these things work.

Having 700k additional units for launch month ready isn't a problem when production already started in fall 2016. However, with this surplus of 700k units gone, all following months are entirely dependent on what can be produced in a single month.

If you wonder how I can be certain that the surplus amounted to only 700k units, it's because there were news of units being delivered via air freight to North America. Air freight is costly and thus not used unless it's deemed as necessary.

The 700k was not a surplus. It was a result of them having increased the production. Production increased in January and in May there's still shortages?

As for the air freight to NA, as far as I'm concerned, it's a PR piece.



the_dengle on 25 May 2017

Why are people impressed by the PS4 vs Pro sales ratio? It's worse than 2:1 in the old model's favor. Compare to the 3DS which always heavily favored the newest & usually most expensive model.



Lawlight on 25 May 2017
tbone51 said:
So lawlight derails again and some smh. Positive nintendo news really urks some people huh :/

So we're not allowed to discuss the numbers? They're not good, what do you want me to say?



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Lawlight on 25 May 2017
the_dengle said:
Why are people impressed by the PS4 vs Pro sales ratio? It's worse than 2:1 in the old model's favor. Compare to the 3DS which always heavily favored the newest & usually most expensive model.

Price difference. The PS4 Pro is not as cheap as the newest 3DS model.



Lawlight on 25 May 2017
peachbuggy said:
Lawlight said:

I hope you're not including AU, UK, Italy and Mexico in the everywhere category. Even the US has the Switch easily available.

http://www.nowinstock.net/uk/videogaming/consoles/nintendoswitch/  

Readily available? I seriously hope you aren't trying to say Switch is readily available in the U.K.? If you actually read the article, you will see the ONLY stock available in the U.K. was due to a massive restock today! Most are already sold out and what little are left will be probably sold out in the time it next takes the site to refresh. 

So that's 2 of your "theories" debunked, 2 to go!

Istocknow begs to differ:

http://www.istocknow.com/product/switch

Currently available in 209 Argos stores. Argos has had stock for weeks now.

Also, which article are you talking about?



Lawlight on 25 May 2017
axumblade said:
Lawlight said:

I hope you're not including AU, UK, Italy and Mexico in the everywhere category. Even the US has the Switch easily available.

http://www.nowinstock.net/videogaming/consoles/nintendoswitch/

Yeah...Definitely readily available in the U.S.

Amazon... You're welcome. Also:

http://www.istocknow.com/product/switch



the_dengle on 25 May 2017
Lawlight said:

Price difference. The PS4 Pro is not as cheap as the newest 3DS model.

The more expensive 3DS model has consistently been the best-selling in Japan where we get such info. The original 3DS fell way behind the XL after its release in 2012. Both older models fell way behind the New models when they released, and I believe of the two the higher-priced XL was always on top despite them releasing simultaneously. Now the very cheap 2DS (which it should be noted is also the newest model in Japan) and mid-range New model account for only 20% of the system's sales.

I'm not asking why the PS4 Pro is being outsold by the 3DS so I don't see what their price relationship has to do with my question. I'm asking why the Pro being outsold more than 2:1 by the cheaper model is considered good.



Lawlight on 25 May 2017
the_dengle said:
Lawlight said:

Price difference. The PS4 Pro is not as cheap as the newest 3DS model.

The more expensive 3DS model has consistently been the best-selling in Japan where we get such info. The original 3DS fell way behind the XL after its release in 2012. Both older models fell way behind the New models when they released, and I believe of the two the higher-priced XL was always on top despite them releasing simultaneously. Now the very cheap 2DS (which it should be noted is also the newest model in Japan) and mid-range New model account for only 20% of the system's sales.

I'm not asking why the PS4 Pro is being outsold by the 3DS so I don't see what their price relationship has to do with my question. I'm asking why the Pro being outsold more than 2:1 by the cheaper model is considered good.

Because the price difference between the models is what determines if people are going for the newer model or the older one.