Your entire argument is essentially "More people break this law, so don't talk about the minority breaking it."

Emulation more often than not involves piracy. CFWs more often than not involve piracy. If a CFW these pops up, piracy will be a major topic, just like it is when an emulation thread pops up.

But most of the time piracy and emulation are really close to eachother since people don't pay for the content. Ex ept for games from the eshop, PS originals etc. It's s grey area when you own the original content, but let's be honest most people who use emulators don't own the original content. So it's a fair point.

But a store is nto a forum and yes there can be occasions where a store can ban someone. M&S here banned a man because he kept shopping for random items, then going rto checkout, "forgetting his card", leaving and then never coming back again until the same day a week later. He kept this up for 3 months until the store noticed a apattern emerging. 

A store can actually ban someone like a forum. Someone who disrupts the company from oeprating can also count, especially if the customer in question is causing issues on a constant basis. 

I find talking of piracy in an emu thread as a form fo derailment, because the subject in question is about emulation, recent subjects being on emulation advancements, not emulation piracy advencements, none of the emu thread makers in recent times on here have been at that, it's been the opposite so far. Those that aren't remotely interested in emulation also seem to pop up in the thread to talk about piracy when it's not even the subject of the thread at all, all that does is serve to derail because that person happens to be a super big fan of a company that the emu is related to.

I don't see it as fair game, I see it as legitimizing constant derailment because the shoe fits on one foot, but it won't for the others (like the generald erailment rule, which is in place and is picked up here and there).

People have been saying emulation is closely tied to or even intertwined with piracy as it often involves downloading pirated copies. Not emulation is piracy, emulation enables piracy and does nothing to prevent piracy. I did hit a link with Botw plus Cemu on my first search, posted it in the other thread, won't repeat it here.

So the question whether emulation == piracy is not relevant. Now we can argue which emulators enable piracy and the legality of circumventing security measures and/or circumventing a contractual obligation to the publishers/developers to ensure the safe keeping of their software.

I'm pretty sure I've seen more than one person claim that emulation is piracy in the last few days, usually without specifying the context. One person said emulation was piracy if it was used to play a pirated game, but the others didn't even specify a context. I also think the distinction is important because otherwise every single thread about emulation keeps getting remarks about piracy as well, seriously derailing the discussion. I have nothing against discussing piracy in the context of emulation, but the amount of offtopic is horrifying.

I saw your link but I didn't see it in my search results. Must be because of Google's personalized search results.

I don't think emulators technically circumvent security measures, they just don't reimplement them. As to whether implementing them without the help of console manufacturers is plausible, I don't know, but I would bet they're not too eager to share their security measures. I also don't think emulators circumvent those contractual obligations, because they're not a part of those contracts. I guess it would be good if those security measures were implemented in emulators (for newer hardware, in my opinion), but again, I'm not sure if it's really possible to pull that off. The security measures would have to be known, which would make circumventing them easier even on actual hardware. Even if those security measures could be implemented properly, they'd just end up getting circumvented, because emulators typically run in environments where the user has much more control over what kind of code gets run. Unlike on actual hardware, the platform running the emulator provides essentially no protection against such actions.

Just ignore them.Most people don't even know how emulation works anyways, so they become angry and afraid of the unknown(just like a racist develops irrational biases.)

Besides, there are barely any PC gamers here, so people derailing the thread is a good way to keep 'em alive L0L.

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What they are saying: Virtual Console (Wii U) and PSX on Vita/PS3 are emulatiors as well!!

What I am saying: Everybody knows that this is not what you want. You want to pirate exclusive games on PC. You can be honest...

If you emulate a game then you're not buying it. Isn't that the same as piracy? Don't both of them mean the developers don't get paid?

And what of those that buy the game and emulate it as well?.

What about second hand sales?, Devs don't get that money.

I find that hard to believe.  CEMU would have been shut down before it even got started.  It's likely the other way around where someone has a copy of a game up for download on torrent sites and might have bundled in the emulator.