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Wildcard975 on 04 April 2008
Redcoat222 said:
In terms of software there is only one major precedent so far (i.e. a major PlayStation franchise that is now multiplatform), and that's DMC4, which has sold more worldwide on PS3 than on 360. Going by this single piece of evidence, since it is the only relevant one we have, it certainly looks as though the game will sell nearly as well on PS3 as on 360. Obviously, there will be a greatly reduced Japan factor, while the much greater popularity of GTA will make installed bases more important, so there is no doubt that in the short term at least 360 will sell more software, but there is no reason to believe it will be even close to 2:1.

As for hardware, the beast that is GTA is what will make people go out and make a decision, but that decision will be determined by the other games around GTAIV, and in my opinion MGS4 and the recently released GT5P will lead most to opt for PS3. At the very least this situation will obtain for Europe. It may be different in the US, but in that case its plausible that we will simply see a continuation of recent trends but on a much more bloated scale, i.e. PS3 ahead ww but not by much.

This logic doesn't really work for GT4 as DMC4 is a popular game in Japan sold good (300K) and the 360 (60K) didn't , That will not work for GTA4.

VGChartz DMC4 sales Breakdown:

PS3 -  300K Japan/340K Others/ 430K US

360 - 60K Japan/ 260K Others/ 610K US

As you can see DMC4 did quite well on the 360 in the US & Others. Japan is the only reason the PS3 sold more WW.

Japan will not be much a factor with GTA4, Hell using your logic the 360 will outsell the PS3 version of GTA4 if you use DMC4 trend.



 

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polishforlife on 04 April 2008
BenKenobi88 said:
The fact that the GTA3 games were on PS2 first doesn't matter. Didn't they get ported to Xbox and PC anyway?

But that's beside the point. A large portion of those PS2 gamers are now 360 gamers...and out of the 2 possible systems that play GTA4, I'm guessing a lot will go for the cheaper one. Not to mention the DLC on 360.

 

I think that wii owners are large portion of those ps2 owners, and how do you know that is true, do you have any evidence. hmmm.

 



Wildcard975 on 04 April 2008
DOATS1 said:

BenKenobi88 said:
The fact that the GTA3 games were on PS2 first doesn't matter. Didn't they get ported to Xbox and PC anyway?

But that's beside the point. A large portion of those PS2 gamers are now 360 gamers...and out of the 2 possible systems that play GTA4, I'm guessing a lot will go for the cheaper one. Not to mention the DLC on 360.


you pulled that right out of thin air.

 

plus, how can a large portion of them be 360 gamers when there are only 18million 360 gamers? you're saying that a large portion of the gta crowd make up a good fraction of the 360 install base?


 

I never owed a Xbox, nethier did my brother or two of my other friends(we all had PS2s), but we all have 360s. Only one of my friends other than my self own PS3s.

So, I guess he not too far off.



 

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hunter_alien on 04 April 2008
libellule said:
Xbox360 premium : 269 euros
Xbox360 arcade : 199 euros

PS3 40gb : 400 euros

do you still think PS3 will be the only winner ?

 In Europe yes , and the curent salestrend prooves it ...



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taxman on 04 April 2008

It is very simple matter that will silence all other arguments.

Think about it, why is the PS3 selling more in the US currently?

For the same reasons, the people that will buy a console specifically for the game will select that console.

I think the effect will be similar to both consoles but the PS3 will sell more in absolute numbers due to the fact that it is selling more now EVEN if it is more expensive...

(I.e. why the hell are people buying the PS3 over the 360 at a higher price and with no good games? You fill in the gaps (and no, it's not price))



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Retrasado on 04 April 2008

As much as I'd like the PS3 to benefit the most from GTA, as soon as you bring casuals into the picture, you fail. I had a friend who wanted a PS3 for Christmas and his mom picked up a 360 arcade because it was $200 cheaper.

no matter how you look at it, with casuals, price is all that matters.



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ultraslick on 04 April 2008

Microsoft would end up benefiting more from the Release of GTAIV if they hadent already paid 50 million for the DLC.

But now they are already overly invested. If hardware sales are close at all in NA on the release week of GTAIV, then IMO Microsoft looses.

I believe WW, Hardware will be in Sony's favor, but if its within 10,000 of a difference in NA, then that will be telling for how well the PS brand is propelling itself.



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Gamer4eva on 04 April 2008

Oh come on. Hu really thinks the 360 is gonna benifit more with GT5P and MGS4 right round the corner. Price isnt a big issue as current sales show and if u look at recent software sales PS3 can move a considerable amount. Free Online and Blu Ray are huge pluses for the PS3 not to mention reliable hardware and a bigger harddrive than the 360 Premiuim. Achievements don't matter as PS3 has Accomplishments and no one knows anything about this Extra DLC and you are gonna have to pay for it anyway for something that could have been in the game from the start. Controllers can be argued about but most PS2 owners will take the PS3 controller and stick to something they are familiar with.



chuckd on 04 April 2008

I have 3 friends who are going to get ps3's because of some combination of GTA GT BR and MGS4. I don't know anyone waiting to buy a 360, they've already got one or are about to buy a ps3.

Real life anecdotes, ftw!



Nintendo Zealot on 04 April 2008
Gamer4eva said:

My reasoning is simple really. GTA has always been a Playstation brand and i guarntee you if you ask some random bloke on the street, "What platform is Grand Theft Auto on?" he will most likly reply "The playstation". So by now you are asking what the hell does this have to do with anything? Well think about it if 16 million people bought GTA SA on the PS2 where do you think the majority are going to go to? Exactly the PS3. Most of the people who bought GTA SA were casuauls/normal gamers meaning that they arnt really going to care about online and extra mission packs that the 360 is getting. Hell i wouldnt mind having the extra packs because i am a hardcore gamer, but im happy with my PS3. So anyway a casual/normal gamer is going to go into a shop and see GTA IV on PS3 and 360 and thinks well the PS3 is £70 (I LIVE IN THE UK) more expensive but then again looks at the whole package and see PS3 offers way more than the 360. By this i mean

- Blu Ray (U all know downloadable films aint gonna catch on)

- More reliable hardware (A causual/normal gamer wouldn't have a good idea of what to do if he got RROD)

- A more familiar controller (DUALSHOCK 3)

- Free Online (I know im contradicting myself with what i said earlier but hell if it's free of course theyre gonna take advantage)

Now some of you may not agree at all, and thats fine by me. But top anyalsts such as Micheal Pachter and co have all said familiar things. So where do i think this will ultimatly boil down to, well

- PS3 will move alot more hardware than 360

- 360 will have the earlier jump on software due to all previous Xbox Owners buying GTA IV first but evenutaully PS3 software will level out and perhaps surpass 360's GTA IV software sales.

On my last point some of you might be thinking WTF, americans buy gta the most and 360 is kicking ass over there, but yes, if current trends continue as NPD showed PS3 outselling the 360 month in month out then it will only be a matter of time before it catches up, and if PS3 is meant to last for 10 years then it's inevetable.


Are you actually trying to bolster your argument using Micheael Pachter's opinion? He is a freaking idiot that has no grasp on reality.

Just because more people bought GTA3 for ps doesn't mean people thought of it as a PS2 game. I always thought of it as a multiplatform game. Do people think of Call of Duty 4 as an Xbox 360 game just cause it sold more? Besides most people know about the extra content for the 360.



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