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FragilE^ said:
gintama said:
and if one member of their families seek revenge , they will blame Islam

And how do you seek revenge? By killing innocent civilians in USA? Cuz that seems legit, right?

 That's the sad cycle of terrorism.



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barneystinson69 said:
VGPolyglot said:

That's actually a great idea! The American military has caused much more dispair than repair!

Right. And there absolutely won't be consequences. Because China and Russia will just do the same, is that correct?

 Actually... how much airstrikes China did led in the past month? Past year? Past decade? How many civilian or military casualties?

As far as I know, China isn't involved into any military conflicts at the moment. I may be wrong, show me the infos.

Regarding Russia: wouldn't it be much easier to criticize Russia, if the West wouldn't do the same?



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NightDragon83 said:
Quick question everyone... if the reason for all of the terrorist attacks perpetrated against the US and the west over the last two decades is because of all the times the west has gotten involved militarily in the Middle East, then shouldn't the Japanese have been kamkaze-ing us every hour on the hour for the last 70 years for what we did to them during WWII i.e. Hiroshima and Nagasaki? Not to mention the hundreds of thousands of additional civilians that were napalmed to death in various fire bombing campaigns?

Funny how of all the military excursions the US and western Europe have been involved in over the past century, it's only radicalized members of a certain religion that routinely carry out terror attacks against innocent civilians throughout the globe in response. We're best buds with the Japanese and Vietnamese nowadays after nuking and napalming their entire countries for the better part of a decade. NATO got involved in Kosovo in the 90s and bombed the hell out of Milosevic's forces in the aftermath of the violent breakup of the former Yugoslavia republic, but everything is peachy-keen today.

Maybe we need to give the so-called "moderates" in the Middle East as well as our so-called allies in the region a final ultimatum... take care of the radical elements amongst your citizenry, or we will, once and for all.

The main difference isn't religion, it is nation-building. The US helped germany and japan after WWII to rebuild their countries. They instilled democracy while at it. In Korea they help against an enemy, the other Korea. In Vietnam the US lost, so the need for revenge has been overcome.

The military actions of the 21. century on the other hand detroyed the governmental force in these countries and left a power vacuum, that was used by terrorists and warlords to build up. Big difference.



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TheLegendaryWolf said:
VGPolyglot said:

Yes, because the logic should be "they're killing people, so why can't we?".

The 1400 civilians killed weren't targeted. The US military didn't just say"time to kill more innocents" no, you can thank ISIS cowards for using civilians as human shields every time the allied coalition tries to eradicate terrorists. It's unfortunate that so many civilians lost their lives but the cold hard truth is that it was inevitable. By your logic the US and the coalition should just leave ISIS alone to their devices and let them take over the country, not only endangering the citizens but also the humanitarian aids that are helping the injured civilians.

 So Russia in your oipinion sends it's bombers with the order to kill civilians?



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glimmer_of_hope said:
Nirvana_Nut85 said:

You're seriously underestimate the Isreali army. If they were allowed to go full throttle the could easily take on almost every single middle eastern country at once. They are light years ahead in military technology and although undeclared, they have an estimated arsenal of 200-400 nukes.

They don't need the West meddling in Middle Eastern affairs and wasting billions of dollars. They can handle themselves.

Ummmm Egypt alone would hand Isreal the death blow

Did they 1948?



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RolStoppable said:
VGPolyglot said:

Actually, this is what the United States wanted. They supported the Islamization of Saudi Arabia and Pakistan as a way to combat the potential influence of Soviet Union, which as you probably know was an atheist state. That's what they implemented.

I doubt the USA's intention was a situation that spiraled out of their control. Yes, they didn't want the Soviet Union to gain influence, but that doesn't mean that they wanted this mess.

 Nope, many consequences are unintended, they still happen.



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RolStoppable said:
Eagle367 said:

Then why are Pakistanis killed by drone strikes in the hundreds? Pakistan is not a war zone.

There's virtually never anything about Pakistan in the news. Has this happened recently?

 Ongoing since 2004, that's why no news reports:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Drone_strikes_in_Pakistan

And if you think these numbers are low, think how it would be if the drone strikes would target radical Vorarlbergians.



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Hard to find a solution without an answer. Lack of action may lead to a similar travesty such as the Rwandan Genocide and the subsequent wars.



It's a public knowledge that US absolutely love killing civilians, Hiroshima and Nagasaki say hello!



Mr Puggsly said:
d21lewis said:
Sometimes it makes you wonder who the good guys are and who's the villain.

Innocent people die when you ignore it. Innocent people die when you get involved.

If we're looking at intent, I think we know who the bad guys are.

Why look at intentions when you can look at actions?

If I start sleeping with other women while telling my GF that "my at intentions are good", she'll not believe me, and if she does believe me, I'll dump her for being so stupid. Actions speak louder than words, always! And louder than intentions as well.

The history is there for you and others to read.