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My vote is no. Why? Because of the market split. PS2 always had a huge market share lead and already had 90% of the 3rd party support when it launched thanks to a successful psx. Wii does not have either of those. It will have to take the 3rd pary support from the others and keep up its very high sell through rate even in 3+ years when the ps3 and 360 games look tremendously better. Think Gears of War x 2. They are both probably capable of near photorealism in game. Granted, graphics are not what is most important, but with the harddives and power they are capable of more expansive and overall greater games. I have said for a long time now I believe Nintendo is not stupid and will realize this after about year 3 and plan on a WiiHD or similar after 5 year mark. If that is counted as part of its overall sales (like ds and dsl are considered same) then, yes it may beat ps2 sales. If the WiiHD is too much of a difference then no, Wii will have a 6yr cycle and do really well, like 60m, but not beat ps2.



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 @ a.l.e.x.59

You do know what does the MUCH mean? 167 > 233 > 243 - yes, this is the real jump into the next-gen... Wii will be out of tank before 2009. No flame here. 



I think its too early to predict the final sales number of Wii right now. few things we need to observe first 1. How sony and ms perform this holiday season 2. the sales number of MGS 4 and FX III when it released. 3. Then in 2008 if the above games failed, will wii recieved 90% of 3rd party developer support like the ps2 had during its life time. if all 3 play in Nintendo's favor, then its possible for nintendo to drag the Wii to a 7-8 yrs lifespan. Then with a 8 years dominate lifespan, it can close in the ps2 record.



well considering everyone who has a playstation 2 had to buy at least 2 (i know ppl who've bought 3-4) because PS2 was cheaply made... it would be hard for a nintendo product, which last like 20 years PLUS ,to sell more than the faulty,inflated number of ps2's..



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kber81 said:

@ a.l.e.x.59

You do know what does the MUCH mean? 167 > 233 > 243 - yes, this is the real jump into the next-gen... Wii will be out of tank before 2009. No flame here.


"No flame here"? Are you trying to get banned?

"Before 2009" means during 2007 or 2008, so you honestly think that the Wii will die within a year and a half? Excuse me while I roll on the floor laughing for a few minutes...

If any console has the chance to die before 2009, it's certainly not the Wii...

PS: Why do you think GPU power determines the life of the console?



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DUH, GRAPHICS ARE EVERYTHING!!!!!!! HAVNT YOU LEARNED ANYTHING??.. SH%T!!!!!!!!!

 

THE 64-BIT JAGUAR?, THE GAMEGEAR?,3DO?,TURBOGRAPHIX? SEGA NOMAAAAAD?!!@!

  oh wait, those all failed miserably...

 

lol

 



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NJ5 said:

"No flame here"? Are you trying to get banned?

"Before 2009" means during 2007 or 2008, so you honestly think that the Wii will die within a year and a half? Excuse me while I roll on the floor laughing for a few minutes...

If any console has the chance to die before 2009, it's certainly not the Wii...

PS: Why do you think GPU power determines the life of the console?


Yes, before 2009 means in 2008. I do believe all this Wii explosion will stop before 2009. If you don't agree it's ok. I don't care. Why do you? This is my statement, that's all. I'm not talking about instant death. It will drop below sale of PS3 and X that's all. I just can't find anything in Wii. Why can't you understand it doesn't suit to all? I have no cash limit regards gaming machine. I can buy it anytime, I just don't want to. I believe in PS3.

It's not only matter of GPU. It's a matter of new dimension in games. Take a look on MGS4 or HS. The potential is huge and it's just a beginning.

Edit: How can I get banned for prediction? Yes, it's probably a bit unpopular here but still... 



I don't think anyone here can reliably predict what's going to happen. In fact, I think we can all agree on just one thing: this generation is a bit different than the past few iterations, and while historical trends are still very important, I wouldn't say they're unbreakable this time around. In the past, a system with the Wii's current success would almost surely, undoubtedly dominate the rest of the generation and, given current sales, probably go on to be the most popular system of all time.

But the Wii is different enough that I'm not sure we can simply assume all those historical trends are accurate. I could personally see it going either way. Here's what goes on in my head:

Many have said that the Xbox360 and PS3 will be absolutely dominated by the Wii, as the GC/Xbox were by PS2. My logical responses:

1) Every generation has some systems that are graphically inferior to others, but it's usually a minor issue. This time it's much bigger: games can't just simply be ported from the PS3 to the Wii. You'd need a complete graphical overhaul. This complicates things, and I'd say it complicates it in 360/PS3's favor, as games can be fairly easily ported between 360/PS3, but not from Wii to any of the other two.

2) The price of the 360/PS3 will come down relative to the Wii. It won't maintain a 2:1 price point forever. People who feel the Wii is a relative bargain may not feel that way when the price gap is 50 or 100 dollars instead of 150-350.

3) The biggest games for the PS3 have not arrived yet, and there is no clear indication that all of the key 3rd party franchises will flock to the Wii, even if the Wii IS recieving more support now than it was previously. Nintendo may fail for a reason completely uncontrollable: the major 3rd party players just simply cannot adapt. They can't figure out how to make good games for the system, even as Zelda: Twilight Princess has shown it's possible. They don't know how to port successfully and they feel underwhelmed working with less-than-stellar hardware. In short, Nintendo could lose simply because the other companies aren't creative enough to adapt to the new playstyle.

On ther other hand, many have said that the Wii will run out of steam at some point, and that the HD systems will shine in the end. My logical responses to this:

1) We really don't know how big a gamer revolution this is. It's possible that there will be millions upons millions of people buying this system who would never even dream of buying a PS3/360. For any price. Simple example: if a PS3 was 10 bucks, the hospitals still wouldn't be buying them for their patients in rehab. My parents wouldn't be buying one, either (and they may be getting a Wii). How many examples out there are like this? If there are a few million, not a big deal, but if there are tens of millions, then the PS3/360 really may be completely outstripped.

2) I think a lot of this "it will run out of steam" talk could just be nervousness on the part of 360/PS3 owners. They don't like the new, more casual, brain age / nintendogs / Wii sports style of gaming. They prefer epic, usually violent, blockbuster titles like Assassin's Creed or Metal Gear. There is no question that a Wii revolution would challenge and alter the way these games are made, if they are made at all. In some cases, I wonder if people don't want to believe in the Wii simply because they don't like what it could mean about the future of gaming.

 

Lastly, and most improtantly, there simply is no sign that the Wii is slowing down in any fashion. Analysts kept waiting for signs of it, people kept predicting that the Wii would slow down and the PS3 would eventually speed up-- but it just.hasn't.happened. It's hard to take anyone's predictions seriously when a slew of people have been caught saying: "Okay, now the Wii will slow down." and then it doesn't. "Okay then, NOW it will." And then it still doesn't. "Okay, I promise you this time, it WILL slow down, and the PS3 will pick up, you'll see," and yet Wii sales keep on trucking, if not increasing, and the PS3 sales go down, and down, and down. Do I think that might reverse itself? Sure, I think so at some point. But given how absolutely wrong so many people have been, I'm just going to stick to my points above and say: "It could go in almost any direction."

 



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yeah kber81, what you said totally merits a banning *yank*

 

 

ladies, plz stop with the "are you trying to get banned" garbage,when someone is stating their opinions..

 



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Kber, you're totally fine. Your opinions are totally acceptable. Seriously, I think they're just being mean. 

I wish people would stop bullying anyone who isn't a Wii fanatic: unless you want this forum to become nothing but a Wii fansite, you need to stop pushing the 360/PS3 supports around. They'll leave. I'm sure some already have. Kber is hardly flagrant, compared to what other people post here. Stop poking at each other and just respect other people's opinions, no matter how strongly you disagree. Please?



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