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Ruler said:

 

 

 

So you use one isolated event as proof that PC gaming is more local multiplayer focused and has more spectatcular events? Dreamhack doesnt proove anything, its a fact that console gaming is favoring more local gameplay as i can just give over my controller to another person. There wouldnt be a need for lan parties like Dreamchack if it would be so easy on PC.

Yes. The PC has larger, bigger, badder and more epic events.
Just to prove it is not an "isolated event" here is the Sydney Gamers League:





Of course. Lots of PC-orientated households have multiple PC's and will happily do local multiplayer... And pretty much 99% of multiplayer games support that.

How many console games support Split Screen multiplayer these days? Exactly. Don't pretend your console has a big advantage here. It doesn't.

Your move, console gamer.




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Pemalite said:
Ruler said:

 

 

 

So you use one isolated event as proof that PC gaming is more local multiplayer focused and has more spectatcular events? Dreamhack doesnt proove anything, its a fact that console gaming is favoring more local gameplay as i can just give over my controller to another person. There wouldnt be a need for lan parties like Dreamchack if it would be so easy on PC.

Yes. The PC has larger, bigger, badder and more epic events.
Just to prove it is not an "isolated event" here is the Sydney Gamers League:





Of course. Lots of PC-orientated households have multiple PC's and will happily do local multiplayer... And pretty much 99% of multiplayer games support that.

How many console games support Split Screen multiplayer these days? Exactly. Don't pretend your console has a big advantage here. It doesn't.

Your move, console gamer.

I'm just passing through. I'll toss in two cents and leave. Here's my two cents:

In my home, we have two PS4s and three Xbox Ones. The biggest reason I buy games digitally is because we can play online with one copy of a game at the same time. So, to answer your question: Any home that has more than one of the same console can play competitively or co-op online using one digital copy of a game and one online subscription in the same home.



d21lewis said:

Any home that has more than one of the same console can play competitively or co-op online using one digital copy of a game and one online subscription in the same home.

Same can be done on PC via Steam.

The days of every game having split-screen local multiplayer is over for consoles, you need multiple consoles to do it these days, so it's really the same as the PC.




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Pemalite said:
d21lewis said:

Any home that has more than one of the same console can play competitively or co-op online using one digital copy of a game and one online subscription in the same home.

Same can be done on PC via Steam.

The days of every game having split-screen local multiplayer is over for consoles, you need multiple consoles to do it these days, so it's really the same as the PC.

The main issue that I have with PCs is compatibility. If I want to play a PS1, I just pop it in the PS1 and turn it on. However, I have had many problems trying to run older games on my PC (as I mainly wanted to play DOS and early Windows games).



Azzanation said:
How many consoles do gamers buy in a generation. Im sure many in here end up buying 2 to 3 PS3s and 360s etc. If your going out to buy another one than it might aswell be upgraded for better performance

Most people would only buy 1 console from per console manufacturer in a generation.



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Pemalite said:
Ruler said:

 

 

 

So you use one isolated event as proof that PC gaming is more local multiplayer focused and has more spectatcular events? Dreamhack doesnt proove anything, its a fact that console gaming is favoring more local gameplay as i can just give over my controller to another person. There wouldnt be a need for lan parties like Dreamchack if it would be so easy on PC.

Yes. The PC has larger, bigger, badder and more epic events.
Just to prove it is not an "isolated event" here is the Sydney Gamers League:





Of course. Lots of PC-orientated households have multiple PC's and will happily do local multiplayer... And pretty much 99% of multiplayer games support that.

How many console games support Split Screen multiplayer these days? Exactly. Don't pretend your console has a big advantage here. It doesn't.

Your move, console gamer.

Honestly, I don't see the average console gamer being so hardcore that they would go out with their system just to play games with strangers. When I'm go out with friends, we're usually doing something else. Is that something that you're into?



Lawlight said:
Azzanation said:
How many consoles do gamers buy in a generation. Im sure many in here end up buying 2 to 3 PS3s and 360s etc. If your going out to buy another one than it might aswell be upgraded for better performance

Most people would only buy 1 console from per console manufacturer in a generation.

Not really. For starters most consoles have a life span of 5 years. Not including break downs, damaged and any other form of accident/incident that happens over a generation. Many cases when a console stops working. The owner buys a new one.

 

Example - You brought a XboxOne at launch. After 4 years you have a problem and it stops working.

A- Not buy another one

B- Buy a 2nd hand launch console which can have similar problems to yours in the future.

C- Buy a Xboxone S with improved performance and design for roughly the same price.

 

I know what option ill choose.

 

There are heaps of double dippers in a generation.

Same can be said with a PS4, Slim and Pro.

Thats not including all the owners who just upgrade for the sake of it.



Azzanation said:
Lawlight said:

Most people would only buy 1 console from per console manufacturer in a generation.

Not really. For starters most consoles have a life span of 5 years. Not including break downs, damaged and any other form of accident/incident that happens over a generation. Many cases when a console stops working. The owner buys a new one.

 

Example - You brought a XboxOne at launch. After 4 years you have a problem and it stops working.

A- Not buy another one

B- Buy a 2nd hand launch console which can have similar problems to yours in the future.

C- Buy a Xboxone S with improved performance and design for roughly the same price.

 

I know what option ill choose.

 

There are heaps of double dippers in a generation.

Same can be said with a PS4, Slim and Pro.

Where did you get your lifespan data from?

Personally, I don't think there's a lot of double dippers.



Lawlight said:
Azzanation said:

Not really. For starters most consoles have a life span of 5 years. Not including break downs, damaged and any other form of accident/incident that happens over a generation. Many cases when a console stops working. The owner buys a new one.

 

Example - You brought a XboxOne at launch. After 4 years you have a problem and it stops working.

A- Not buy another one

B- Buy a 2nd hand launch console which can have similar problems to yours in the future.

C- Buy a Xboxone S with improved performance and design for roughly the same price.

 

I know what option ill choose.

 

There are heaps of double dippers in a generation.

Same can be said with a PS4, Slim and Pro.

Where did you get your lifespan data from?

Personally, I don't think there's a lot of double dippers.

My brother works at GameStop. He tells me how many customers come back with replacements and returns etc. Lets say its a fair amount over the span if a generation. 

Also doesn't help that majority of people i know brought more than one console. One of my friends own 4 PS3 for the Blu Ray player, 1 for each room. Thats extreme but he made up 4 customers. 

Im not a console guy yet every console i brought i end up buying another one due to problems.



Ruler said:

So you use one isolated event as proof that PC gaming is more local multiplayer focused and has more spectatcular events? Dreamhack doesnt proove anything, its a fact that console gaming is favoring more local gameplay as i can just give over my controller to another person. There wouldnt be a need for lan parties like Dreamchack if it would be so easy on PC.

How many games on PS4 and Xbox ONE even still have local multiplayer? Not many anymore for sure. In fact, I'm pretty sure Wii U has more local multiplayer games than both PS4 and Xbox ONE combined

Local multiplayer on consoles was true 10 years ago, but since then outside of Nintendo and sports titles it's geting more and more rare.