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A lot of younger people start out as liberal/socialist, then as they get more experience in life and exposure to the real world they tend to move towards being conservative. I would put myself on the conservative side of the middle. I don't care what you believe as long as it doesn't infringe on others rights/freedoms/safety to do whatever the hell they like.



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Pemalite said:
Seventizz said:
I'm a recovering liberal in Canada who now votes conservative. I've known SJWs, I was an SJW, but I've seen it come to extremes and I can no longer support the movement.

I do not support my Prime Minister who is a staunch liberal on all fronts. I do support Donald Trump and all of his policies. I don't think like a conservative when it comes to religion and abortion rights.

Oh, and I'm also gay.

So you support someone who doesn't support the LGBTQI demographic? You sir' are certainly a rare breed.

Social Justice Warriors tend to be a little extreme, the far-right isn't any better though with it's facism... The best place to be is in the center in my opinion, you can then leverage the best argument from either side and go with it.

In what way does Donald Trump not support LGBT (talking about Trump, NOT Pence)? Just curious because the far left constantly say this but I've never heard a single argument that supports it.. Last I recall he stood up for those killed in Orlando while the Dems were busy turning a blind eye while saying "don't be mean to Islam!"



 

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DarthMetalliCube said:
Pemalite said:

So you support someone who doesn't support the LGBTQI demographic? You sir' are certainly a rare breed.

Social Justice Warriors tend to be a little extreme, the far-right isn't any better though with it's facism... The best place to be is in the center in my opinion, you can then leverage the best argument from either side and go with it.

In what way does Donald Trump not support LGBT (talking about Trump, NOT Pence)? Just curious because the far left constantly say this but I've never heard a single argument that supports it.. Last I recall he stood up for those killed in Orlando while the Dems were busy turning a blind eye while saying "don't be mean to Islam!"

Read my last post. Click the Youtube link. Enjoy.



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Pemalite said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

In what way does Donald Trump not support LGBT (talking about Trump, NOT Pence)? Just curious because the far left constantly say this but I've never heard a single argument that supports it.. Last I recall he stood up for those killed in Orlando while the Dems were busy turning a blind eye while saying "don't be mean to Islam!"

Read my last post. Click the Youtube link. Enjoy.

Oh my bad, didn't see it. Interesting..Though the vid so is several years old so who knows what his views are now, he even states in this same video that many of his views have changed.

Besides gay marriage is legal now, and I don't see him changing that. The guy obviously says what he thinks the majority of his audience wants to hear, and being interviewed in Fox News I'm not surprised to hear him say that. But who knows what he actually thinks, people change. HRC was once against gay marriage too.



 

"We hold these truths to be self-evident - all men and women created by the, go-you know.. you know the thing!" - Joe Biden

To put a politcal label on it centre-left.

To put an honest answer on it, whatever is fair to all. I think everyone should have the right to healthcare and a good education. Benefits systems (UK at least) give too much for too little. Pro EU.



Hmm, pie.

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DarthMetalliCube said:
Pemalite said:

Read my last post. Click the Youtube link. Enjoy.

Oh my bad, didn't see it. Interesting..Though the vid so is several years old so who knows what his views are now, he even states in this same video that many of his views have changed.

Besides gay marriage is legal now, and I don't see him changing that. The guy obviously says what he thinks the majority of his audience wants to hear, and being interviewed in Fox News I'm not surprised to hear him say that. But who knows what he actually thinks, people change. HRC was once against gay marriage too.

So was Obama - until a focus group told him that he should change his stance aka, politics.  Trump has stated he wouldn't change or challenge gay marriage.  Most of America was anti gay marriage too - but they eventually came around when it became a hot issue.  Some things just take time.



DarthMetalliCube said:
Pemalite said:

Read my last post. Click the Youtube link. Enjoy.

Oh my bad, didn't see it. Interesting..Though the vid so is several years old so who knows what his views are now, he even states in this same video that many of his views have changed.

Besides gay marriage is legal now, and I don't see him changing that. The guy obviously says what he thinks the majority of his audience wants to hear, and being interviewed in Fox News I'm not surprised to hear him say that. But who knows what he actually thinks, people change. HRC was once against gay marriage too.

Later on when questioned about it during the campaign, he didn't necessarily backtrack or apologise for his anti-LGBTQI stance, just that the issue was "put to rest" for the time being.
Considering millions voted for trump because he is someone who "speaks his mind" and tends not to "backflip" on rhetoric... Well.

With that, he has recruited multiple anti-LGBTQI people in his cabinet such as Mike Pence... Actions still speak louder than words.

There was a draft executive order at one point back in January that caused a stir, which never got signed and is now backtracked after much opposition, which would have allowed federal employees to refuse to serve LGBTQI people based on their religious beliefs, opening up discrimination against LGBTQI people.

And then you have the Trans toilet issue. Only the USA could make such an issue an actual real dramatic issue. But they succeeded, Trans people are under the rainbow flag as well remember.

Seventizz said:

So was Obama - until a focus group told him that he should change his stance aka, politics.  Trump has stated he wouldn't change or challenge gay marriage.  Most of America was anti gay marriage too - but they eventually came around when it became a hot issue.  Some things just take time.

To be fair. Trump would never have made the changes Obama would have to benefit the LGBTQI community.



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Pemalite said:
DarthMetalliCube said:

Oh my bad, didn't see it. Interesting..Though the vid so is several years old so who knows what his views are now, he even states in this same video that many of his views have changed.

Besides gay marriage is legal now, and I don't see him changing that. The guy obviously says what he thinks the majority of his audience wants to hear, and being interviewed in Fox News I'm not surprised to hear him say that. But who knows what he actually thinks, people change. HRC was once against gay marriage too.

Later on when questioned about it during the campaign, he didn't necessarily backtrack or apologise for his anti-LGBTQI stance, just that the issue was "put to rest" for the time being.
Considering millions voted for trump because he is someone who "speaks his mind" and tends not to "backflip" on rhetoric... Well.

With that, he has recruited multiple anti-LGBTQI people in his cabinet such as Mike Pence... Actions still speak louder than words.

There was a draft executive order at one point back in January that caused a stir, which never got signed and is now backtracked after much opposition, which would have allowed federal employees to refuse to serve LGBTQI people based on their religious beliefs, opening up discrimination against LGBTQI people.

And then you have the Trans toilet issue. Only the USA could make such an issue an actual real dramatic issue. But they succeeded, Trans people are under the rainbow flag as well remember.

Seventizz said:

So was Obama - until a focus group told him that he should change his stance aka, politics.  Trump has stated he wouldn't change or challenge gay marriage.  Most of America was anti gay marriage too - but they eventually came around when it became a hot issue.  Some things just take time.

To be fair. Trump would never have made the changes Obama would have to benefit the LGBTQI community.

You don't know that.  Assuming you don't posses a magic crystal ball, that is.



I am a full blow Marxist Leninist, but am closer to Trotskyism otherwise. However, I am also heavily anti establishment and very accommodating towards other views so long as they are not in support of the current governments and the establishment, that's why I strongly endorse the conservatives in Northern Europe and the leftists in the South. I like Alexis Tsipras as much as I like Trump and was relatively supportive of David Cameron as well as Nestor Kirchner. If I feel something is different, I usually am game.



AsGryffynn said:
I am a full blow Marxist Leninist, but am closer to Trotskyism otherwise. However, I am also heavily anti establishment and very accommodating towards other views so long as they are not in support of the current governments and the establishment, that's why I strongly endorse the conservatives in Northern Europe and the leftists in the South. I like Alexis Tsipras as much as I like Trump and was relatively supportive of David Cameron as well as Nestor Kirchner. If I feel something is different, I usually am game.

From your posts in other threads, it's very hard for me to believe that you're a Marxist-Leninist.