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think-man said:
monocle_layton said:

So, never? 

I mean, Nintendo games usually go for 60 fps, but that doesn't count to most hardcore gamers.

Maybe its time for Nintendo to teach other developers how to do it :P 

It just can't be done. 60fps on consoles is a myth created by frame rate warriors to make console owners feel bad and assert their #pcmasterrace.



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60FPS in this game, open world, transitions form multiple different genre's is very hard to keep stable.
Platinum id a pretty good job, the bottleneck in these kind of games is usually the budget processor in the consoles, Maybe the Xbox Scorpio will finally fix this problem (followed by ps5 no doubt) but since this is a pc/ps4 exclusive it seems PC will be the only way to get that stable 60fps for people who really care.

There is no doubt in my mind that the game performs good enough on ps4, however, because the scores from critics speak for themselves and its supposed to be very good.




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hunter_alien said:
SegataSanshiro said:

Not played the demo yet? LOL Nice one. Dude I am playing the game as I type. I have 50 hours into the game. I am playing as 9S ATM. I didn;t say Bayonetta I said Bayonetta 2. B2 has insane scale. This game doesn't have nearly the scale that game does. Multiple bosses that are massive,size of the bosss from the demo.

Ok than, than you probably need to change some settings on your TV. I have played B2 myself and honestly it looked dated from the start (as far as I can tell they used the same engine as in the first game). While N:A is not groundbreaking by any technical standards, the generation leep is obvious and not just resolution wise.

My TV is set to the best settings Robert Heron reccomended. Maybe the best person in the US with knowledge on TVs.  I have 20/10 vision.

Look again.



SegataSanshiro said:
hunter_alien said:

Ok than, than you probably need to change some settings on your TV. I have played B2 myself and honestly it looked dated from the start (as far as I can tell they used the same engine as in the first game). While N:A is not groundbreaking by any technical standards, the generation leep is obvious and not just resolution wise.

My TV is set to the best settings Robert Heron reccomended. Maybe the best person in the US with knowledge on TVs.  I have 20/10 vision.

Look again.

It doesn't look as good as Nier to me, even if you can prefer the art style and colors. Textures and characters models really seem worse (even if Nier's textures can be pretty bad too).



SegataSanshiro said:
hunter_alien said:

Ok than, than you probably need to change some settings on your TV. I have played B2 myself and honestly it looked dated from the start (as far as I can tell they used the same engine as in the first game). While N:A is not groundbreaking by any technical standards, the generation leep is obvious and not just resolution wise.

My TV is set to the best settings Robert Heron reccomended. Maybe the best person in the US with knowledge on TVs.  I have 20/10 vision.

Look again.

I have no idea who that is, but I guess thats good then. No need to look again as I saw it in motion. SOme screen grabs might looks good on the surface but in motion there are nowhere near that impressive. In all honesty both from gameplay an visual perspective I find the Bayonetta games unimpressive and overrated. N:A might have a more monotone graphical style, but it fits perfectly. I guess I wont have to show you screenshots, as you have the game, but I do find it curious that you cannot see the difference on a technical level with 20/20 vision. I know I only have 20/20 with glasses



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Faelco said:
SegataSanshiro said:

My TV is set to the best settings Robert Heron reccomended. Maybe the best person in the US with knowledge on TVs.  I have 20/10 vision.

Look again.

It doesn't look as good as Nier to me, even if you can prefer the art style and colors. Textures and characters models really seem worse (even if Nier's textures can be pretty bad too).

To be honest, I don't see Platinum games visually outstanding, at all. Their focus is gameplay.



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I'm a few hours in the game and if there are frame rate issues then I never noticed.



Peh said:
Faelco said:

It doesn't look as good as Nier to me, even if you can prefer the art style and colors. Textures and characters models really seem worse (even if Nier's textures can be pretty bad too).

To be honest, I don't see Platinum games visually outstanding, at all. Their focus is gameplay.

I agree, I don't find Nier Automata great visually. But saying that Bayonetta 2 looks better is wrong IMO. Nier doesn't look good, and B2 looks worse. 



SegataSanshiro said:
Platinum Games are usually locked at 60 so unusual for them to not have one at 60 or one having trouble at all. I'm not sure why as while I love the game,nothing in it visually looks like the most demanding game. In fact it feels even less impressive than Bayonetta 2 aside from resolution.

It's actually fairly standard for them. Most of their recent major releases (including Bayonetta, Bayonetta 2, Wonderful 101, and Star Fox Zero) run at a 30 - 60fps variable.



I've not noticed any jarring drops in the heat of battle on my base model, but I'm trash at fast-paced character action games so I probably wouldn't notice it as much.

I do notice it quite a bit when traveling the overworld, however. It's strange that it'll suddenly drop when there is seemingly little going on. I've also noticed a few times that models and textures fail to load in properly in a timely manner. There's one dune in the desert in particular that seems to want to stay a giant polygon.

Still a pretty great game, though. On my third 'playthrough' now.