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GribbleGrunger said:
Kerotan said:

Playstation putting in a great shift both hardware and software! 

Like I said before, all things considered, the PS4 is still performing as before, it's just that the new console on the block is doing extremely well, aided by some extent by the fact the PS4 is 'closer' to saturation point. I say closer because there's still a way to go and I've never thought 'saturation point' was a fixed number but rather a variable number based on trends.

As we've said, though, it would be extremely worrying if the Switch wasn't tearing up the charts this month. The Xbox One did 900k its first month, after all, and I expect the Switch to be more in demand than that was at launch, with its huge price tag and direct competitor. 



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Ariakon said:
GribbleGrunger said:

Like I said before, all things considered, the PS4 is still performing as before, it's just that the new console on the block is doing extremely well, aided by some extent by the fact the PS4 is 'closer' to saturation point. I say closer because there's still a way to go and I've never thought 'saturation point' was a fixed number but rather a variable number based on trends.

As we've said, though, it would be extremely worrying if the Switch wasn't tearing up the charts this month. The Xbox One did 900k its first month, after all, and I expect the Switch to be more in demand than that was at launch, with its huge price tag and direct competitor. 

The Switch wont sell 900k in March NPD.



jason1637 said:
Ariakon said:

As we've said, though, it would be extremely worrying if the Switch wasn't tearing up the charts this month. The Xbox One did 900k its first month, after all, and I expect the Switch to be more in demand than that was at launch, with its huge price tag and direct competitor. 

The Switch wont sell 900k in March NPD.

I think it might if the stock is there. I don't think the launch month will significantly impact its first month sales. I would doubt, however, that it would do the 850k or 900k the ps4 and One did the following month, as that was December. The first month, though, should still be open season for people who want the product. 



Ariakon said:
jason1637 said:

The Switch wont sell 900k in March NPD.

I think it might if the stock is there. I don't think the launch month will significantly impact its first month sales. I would doubt, however, that it would do the 850k or 900k the ps4 and One did the following month, as that was December. The first month, though, should still be open season for people who want the product. 

I think it could do 600k. The PS4/XB1 launched during the holidays so it makes sense they had big launches, also they had more AAA games and well known IPs at launch compared to the Switch.



jason1637 said:
Ariakon said:

I think it might if the stock is there. I don't think the launch month will significantly impact its first month sales. I would doubt, however, that it would do the 850k or 900k the ps4 and One did the following month, as that was December. The first month, though, should still be open season for people who want the product. 

I think it could do 600k. The PS4/XB1 launched during the holidays so it makes sense they had big launches, also they had more AAA games and well known IPs at launch compared to the Switch.

Yeah, I really have no idea about the stock situation, though it sounds like they sold more than Wii did on opening weekend, which I think was something above 400k. Since it came out so early in the month, though, I'll expect that they were able to get a few hundred more thousand in, so I'm thinking probably 750k or more. I could be wrong, though, as there really hasn't been any indications of stock except for Nintendo's intended shipment of 2 million (though WSJ thought they might have bumped that up to 2.5 million). 



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Ariakon said:

As we've said, though, it would be extremely worrying if the Switch wasn't tearing up the charts this month. The Xbox One did 900k its first month, after all, and I expect the Switch to be more in demand than that was at launch, with its huge price tag and direct competitor. 

Yes, this is pretty much were I stand at the moment too. We need to wait to truly judge this objectively, although I have to say 'at the moment' it's looking good for Nintendo. I think the question is,  can ONE game sustain them enough before games like Persona 5 and heavy promotions start for PS4/PS4pro? I've got to be honest and say that MS are out of it until Scorpio releases.



 

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jason1637 said:
Ariakon said:

I think it might if the stock is there. I don't think the launch month will significantly impact its first month sales. I would doubt, however, that it would do the 850k or 900k the ps4 and One did the following month, as that was December. The first month, though, should still be open season for people who want the product. 

I think it could do 600k. The PS4/XB1 launched during the holidays so it makes sense they had big launches, also they had more AAA games and well known IPs at launch compared to the Switch.

Well the intial shipment is 2mil for fy (end of march). If that number increases to lets say 2.5mil then sold tru number is close to 95% (because its heavily supply restraint) then it can do well.

 

Japan will have an estimate of 500k, Europe and the rest of the world can ship around 800k-1mil. That would leave NoA a shipment of around 1mil-1.2mil. Most of that can be US. Especially considering LoZ, i think there is a chance of it doing 800k+, even close to 1mil imo



tbone51 said:
jason1637 said:

I think it could do 600k. The PS4/XB1 launched during the holidays so it makes sense they had big launches, also they had more AAA games and well known IPs at launch compared to the Switch.

Well the intial shipment is 2mil for fy (end of march). If that number increases to lets say 2.5mil then sold tru number is close to 95% (because its heavily supply restraint) then it can do well.

 

Japan will have an estimate of 500k, Europe and the rest of the world can ship around 800k-1mil. That would leave NoA a shipment of around 1mil-1.2mil. Most of that can be US. Especially considering LoZ, i think there is a chance of it doing 800k+, even close to 1mil imo

Would be really impressive if Switch sold that much especially when you look at Nintendos situation with the Wii U,



Ariakon said:

As we've said, though, it would be extremely worrying if the Switch wasn't tearing up the charts this month. The Xbox One did 900k its first month, after all, and I expect the Switch to be more in demand than that was at launch, with its huge price tag and direct competitor. 

Absolutely, but I'm not willing to get involved with that at the moment. I need to know that any 'assessments' I make is coming from an objective perspective. I'm waiting for a moment of clarity and not 'potential' bias.



 

The PS5 Exists. 


GribbleGrunger said:
Kerotan said:

Playstation putting in a great shift both hardware and software! 

Like I said before, all things considered, the PS4 is still performing as before, it's just that the new console on the block is doing extremely well, aided by some extent by the fact the PS4 is 'closer' to saturation point. I say closer because there's still a way to go and I've never thought 'saturation point' was a fixed number but rather a variable number based on trends.

Oh yeah Switch like pretty much every major console launch is doing very well.  

 

How it doesn't doesn't affect ps4 hardware or software performance. And that performance is superb tight now.  

 

It's beaten it's main rival the xb1 the past 4 months straight and looks on course to making it a 5 month winstreak.