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Forums - Nintendo Discussion - BOLD Prediction: Zelda BotW will do a Whopping 10mil Lifetime! Update 10mil Achieved

PortisheadBiscuit said:

Not that I should engage you, but just to shut you up...

Madden

Sonic The Hedgehog

Street Fighter

Mortal Kombat

NBA 2K 

FIFA 

Donkey Kong

Maybe it's because I'm younger, but I don't feel like Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter are as well known as Zelda, not even outside the gaming world.



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mZuzek said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

And you've got to be kidding me about MK and SF. Anyone alive and lucid in the early 90's will know MK and SF. All age groups for one reason or another. Young children who's parents wouldnt let them play. Teens and young adults who played the game, and parents/grandparents that didnt want their kids playing them. Not to mention all the press and media coverage the games got for being too violent etc. Also keep in mind these games werent just popular on home consoles but were crazy popular in arcades (this was a thing back in 90s) and were in probably every liquor store, grocery store, etc;

I'm sorry to inform you but the year is 2018.

Newsflash, a lot of people alive in the 90's are still alive today. What a bombshell right? 



PortisheadBiscuit said:
mZuzek said:

I'm sorry to inform you but the year is 2018.

Newsflash, a lot of people alive in the 90's are still alive today. What a bombshell right? 

So does this mean that beanie babies are still popular?



Flilix said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

Not that I should engage you, but just to shut you up...

Madden

Sonic The Hedgehog

Street Fighter

Mortal Kombat

NBA 2K 

FIFA 

Donkey Kong

Maybe it's because I'm younger, but I don't feel like Mortal Kombat and Street Fighter are as well known as Zelda, not even outside the gaming world.

Probably you werent around in the arcade days



MDMAlliance said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

Newsflash, a lot of people alive in the 90's are still alive today. What a bombshell right? 

So does this mean that beanie babies are still popular?

Please read his original challenge, he said "known" not popular. 



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PortisheadBiscuit said:
MDMAlliance said:

So does this mean that beanie babies are still popular?

Please read his original challenge, he said "known" not popular. 

My point is that things that no longer are actively popular will get forgotten and things that may never have been as popular as them will actually be "better known."  Do you get what I'm trying to say?  

There's also another thing you failed to take into account.  It's the fact that new people are being born all the time.  Things like Zelda existed a long time ago, too.  However, with games like Sonic not as many people who are being born now will know the game.  So you combine the people in the past that knew Zelda with the people now that still know Zelda, it could very likely be more known in an active kind of way.



PortisheadBiscuit said:
mZuzek said:

You have some very weird non-gamer friends and family, then.

Because they don't know what Zelda is? Surprise, there are people who don't pay attention to the gaming industry. Point is Pokemon, Mario, Call of Duty, GTA, have much more notoriety when it comes to pop culture. 

Gonna have to agree with MZuzek here. Zelda is one of the big pop culture franchises because it's been one of the main video game franchises for 30 years. It seems very weird that someone would know other video game franchises but have no idea what Zelda is. Unless we're just talking about like 20 year olds who have never played video games in their life, I guess I could see how people who were born when like Ocarina of Time came out and have never played video games might have heard of CoD and GTA but not Zelda. Zelda had a lot more pop culture notoriety in the 80s and 90s than the past two decades.

 

Anyway, Zelda is certainly not a niche title, it just isn't massively popular like some other series. Big adventure games only appeal to a certain base of players, and there are a lot more people who would rather pick up the top 3d platformer or the same shooting game every year or the same sports game every year than will pick up an epic adventure game no matter how great it is.



MDMAlliance said:
PortisheadBiscuit said:

Please read his original challenge, he said "known" not popular. 

My point is that things that no longer are actively popular will get forgotten and things that may never have been as popular as them will actually be "better known."  Do you get what I'm trying to say?  

There's also another thing you failed to take into account.  It's the fact that new people are being born all the time.  Things like Zelda existed a long time ago, too.  However, with games like Sonic not as many people who are being born now will know the game.  So you combine the people in the past that knew Zelda with the people now that still know Zelda, it could very likely be more known in an active kind of way.

First, not all things are created equal. I Love Lucy was filmed in the 1950s, a huge percentage of the population was not alive then, yet the series is still a well known part of pop culture. On the contrary, something like a slinky toy was vastly popular during its prime, yet I bet a lot of millennials have no idea what it is. 

2nd, new people are born all the time? Really? Thought we lost the capability to reproduce decades ago



PortisheadBiscuit said:
Never thought a Zelda title would be on a path to 10 million, like others have said it's a very niche series.

Even if we disregard Breath of the Wild, Ocarina of Time sold over 7 million and Twilight Princess over 8 million. These are not niche numbers.



Isn’t “niche” just a synonym of genre? So yeah, Zelda is an action adventure video game, that would be a niche.

The way I have always heard the word used is as a category that an author or writer specializes in, such as medieval fantasy. So IGN’s niche would be videogames.



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