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Goodnightmoon on 01 March 2017
Faelco said:

If you want more reviews of the Switch, Metacritic has a page for it:

http://www.metacritic.com/feature/nintendo-switch-console-hardware-review?ref=hp

One "extremely positive review" (90), a lot of positive ones, but also a bunch of mixed reviews. IGN aren't the only ones finding some issues with the device. No negative review though.

35 positive reviews VS 9 mixed reviews

IGN opinion is of course respectable but seems to be in a clear minority here.



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Faelco on 01 March 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
Faelco said:

If you want more reviews of the Switch, Metacritic has a page for it:

http://www.metacritic.com/feature/nintendo-switch-console-hardware-review?ref=hp

One "extremely positive review" (90), a lot of positive ones, but also a bunch of mixed reviews. IGN aren't the only ones finding some issues with the device. No negative review though.

34 positive reviews VS 9 mixed reviews

I edited my post after a bit of reading. A part of the positive reviews also talk about doubts, issues, compromises, even if they really like the console. IGN aren't the only monsters having issues with it.

Example of a "positive" review :

After a week with the Switch, I really like it — but I’d also recommend that anyone who hasn’t preordered hold off on purchasing one for the time being. ... It’s hard to not feel like the Switch was rushed to market — Nintendo was still figuring out its launch lineup just days before the system was due to hit store shelves, and my hardware troubles give me serious pause.


Alkibiádēs on 01 March 2017
Faelco said:

If you want more reviews of the Switch, Metacritic has a page for it:

http://www.metacritic.com/feature/nintendo-switch-console-hardware-review?ref=hp

One "extremely positive review" (90), a lot of positive ones, but also a bunch of mixed reviews. IGN aren't the only ones finding some issues with the device. A lot of the positive reviews talk about issues or doubts too, even if they like the console. No negative review though.

I really don't get the point of reviewing a console at launch. 

Take this review from Wired for example:

"And right now, that’s about all one can say about Switch: It has a new Zelda, you can definitely play it in handheld mode, and you might be able to play it in TV mode if you’re lucky. Switch has the potential to be all things to all people: TV console, next-gen Game Boy, wacky motion controls, traditional hardcore game machine, even multiplayer-in-a-box. But today, with just hours to go before launch, Switch is lacking some basic functionality."

No shit, it just released. Give it some time to build up a game library... 

And that part of being able to play in TV mode if you're lucky makes no sense at all. Everyone can play it in TV mode just fine. 



"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides

Goodnightmoon on 01 March 2017
Faelco said:
Goodnightmoon said:

34 positive reviews VS 9 mixed reviews

I edited my post after a bit of reading. A part of the positive reviews also talk about doubts, issues, compromises, even if they really like the console. IGN aren't the only monsters having issues with it.

Sure but every console has issues, specially at launch, however the reception is having is clearly positive



potato_hamster on 01 March 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
Faelco said:

If you want more reviews of the Switch, Metacritic has a page for it:

http://www.metacritic.com/feature/nintendo-switch-console-hardware-review?ref=hp

One "extremely positive review" (90), a lot of positive ones, but also a bunch of mixed reviews. IGN aren't the only ones finding some issues with the device. No negative review though.

35 positive reviews VS 9 mixed reviews

IGN opinion is of course respectable but seems to be in a clear minority here.

And if that was the inverse (9 positive vs 35 mixed) would have make the IGN reviewers perspective any more meaningful or any less shortsighted? How do you know whether or not the 35 positive reviews are not mostly just buying into the hype, or giving the Switch the benefit of the doubt?



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potato_hamster on 01 March 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
potato_hamster said:

He has a narrow perspective, because when he used the unit, when he played games on it, when he tried it in different modes, and tested out this feature or that feature (all of which you have not done) he came to a different conclusion then the one you believe you will have when you use the unit, having absolutely zero hands on experience with it yourself.  After using the Switch himself, he found in many ways, the home console experience the Switch offeres is not as good as the home console expereince he has come to expect, and in other ways, the portable console experience not as good as the portable console experience he has come to expect. He found it to be a compromise, and he did not like that compromise. He's critizing it for being worse, not for being different. Yet somehow, his unwillingness to accept this compromise, and his feelings that this leads to a poorer experienceis narrow minded? How exactly?

You remind me of all those Xbox fans who kept harping on "the power of the cloud" when they hadnt actually seen any tangible demonstration of that power that actually made any meaningful difference(and still haven't). All you have is hypotheticals. All you have is what you believe the Switch might be able to do some day. Unfortunately for you, this reviewer decided to stick to how the Switch performs in the present, not what it might be able to do in the future.

Yes he seems to have a kind of narrowminded perspective of the console and time will show it, the comparison with the cloud is pretty absurd, suree you need to try the console first to confirm some of the things, but even without the console you can already see the flaws on some of his reasoning or the perspective he is taking, specially after reading the amount of reviews we already have about it. But again, time will tell, and I'm inclined to believe IGN will review this again in the future.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argumentum_ad_populum



Goodnightmoon on 01 March 2017
potato_hamster said:
Goodnightmoon said:

35 positive reviews VS 9 mixed reviews

IGN opinion is of course respectable but seems to be in a clear minority here.

And if that was the inverse (9 positive vs 35 mixed) would have make the IGN reviewers perspective any more meaningful or any less shortsighted? How do you know whether or not the 35 positive reviews are not mostly just buying into the hype, or giving the Switch the benefit of the doubt?

No, it wouldn't be more respectable, it simply wouldn't be part of the minority.



potato_hamster on 01 March 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
potato_hamster said:

And if that was the inverse (9 positive vs 35 mixed) would have make the IGN reviewers perspective any more meaningful or any less shortsighted? How do you know whether or not the 35 positive reviews are not mostly just buying into the hype, or giving the Switch the benefit of the doubt?

No, it wouldn't be more respectable, it simply wouldn't be part of the minority.

Ahh, I see, so to summarize, you feel you know better than people who have actually used the console, regardless of what they might say simply because their hands on experience isn't the same as the experience you think you will have. Got it.



monocle_layton on 01 March 2017

I think they have a right to not love the switch. The 'true' launch of the switch will be with Odyssey. By then, we'll see many games that'll satisfy both gamers and casuals



Faelco on 01 March 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
potato_hamster said:

And if that was the inverse (9 positive vs 35 mixed) would have make the IGN reviewers perspective any more meaningful or any less shortsighted? How do you know whether or not the 35 positive reviews are not mostly just buying into the hype, or giving the Switch the benefit of the doubt?

No, it wouldn't be more respectable, it simply wouldn't be part of the minority.

But this one is part of the majority of "positive reviews" you like:

After a week with the Switch, I really like it — but I’d also recommend that anyone who hasn’t preordered hold off on purchasing one for the time being. ... It’s hard to not feel like the Switch was rushed to market — Nintendo was still figuring out its launch lineup just days before the system was due to hit store shelves, and my hardware troubles give me serious pause.

"Don't buy it right now, I like it but it's rushed, with hardware troubles and a questionable launch lineup"

I almost find the IGN review nicer to the Switch than this one ^^.