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ICStats on 01 March 2017
specialk said:
I understand reviewing hardware in terms of performance, ergonomics, and build and stuff like that.

I don't get rendering a judgement on whether or not it's "worth it" though. That will ultimately be determined by the quality of games that come out.

I feel like everyone renders the same judgement at every console launch. "With the light lineup, we simply can't recommend it right now at the current price."

What system had an absolutely killer launch lineup? How many people are still talking about Ryse and Killzone 4 right now?

Err, that's almost entirely what they do.  Hardware reviews always make a judgment on whether they think a console is worth buying at that time or waiting.  The situation, and therefore recommendations will change over time.



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pokoko on 01 March 2017
Nautilus said:
I always had a love-hate relationship with IGN reviews.In one hand, I think that the written part of the reviews are great.They detail what needs to be detailed and are very through.The score, on the other hand, are very much a hit-and-miss.Sometimes it fits in with what they have written, other times they feel like they are going to give a 9 in the review, just to score it a 7.5.

In this review in particular, I feel like he listed some very dumb negatives."The most glaring is that there is no way to lay the system on its side while docked, which is particularly irritating given that the game card slot, headphone jack, headphone volume controls, and power button are all along the top of the system."Really?Thats a complain?Especially since the system is so small compared to the other home systems?

Other thing that he complains is that he compairs the power to the other systems, but dosent stress out the fact that the Switch does one thing that the others dont:Be portable.And with that, that point seems more negative than it should have been.

Another that he complains is the power.While the 3 hour battery is not excellent by any means, he keeps saying as if the system only handles that much in any condition, failing to acknoledge that it will vary greatly to the game you are playing(and also when not playing anything at all), so it feels like an unnecessary stab at Nintendo.

Having said that, its not a bad review per se, but it feels lacking in my opinion.

Actually, good for him to mention something like that.  That's what a console review should do, list issues and potential issues so consumers have all the information they need.  Hardware reviews that just dwell on the obvious positives are doing their readers a disservice.  This isn't going to bother everyone, or even most people, but it might be meaningful to some.  Personally, my TV is on a stand with shelf space underneath.  I have no idea where I would put the console if it can't go there.  I guess it would be like old school consoles where I'd have to pull it out when I want to play.

... that last line sounds wrong.

Seriously, reviews like this should list every single possible annoyance or problem the writer can find so that readers can make up their own minds.  This isn't an advertisement.



Goodnightmoon on 01 March 2017
JRPGfan said:

"Even if the Switch’s questionable internals and control issues don’t dissuade you from using it like a gaming console, it suffers numerous other issues and inconveniences when it’s hooked up to your TV. The most glaring is that there is no way to lay the system on its side while docked, which is particularly irritating given that the game card slot, headphone jack, headphone volume controls, and power button are all along the top of the system. If you, like many people, keep your consoles in an entertainment system of some kind with shelves, there simply isn’t a convenient way to get to any of this stuff."

"Because that USB-C port is on the bottom of the tablet, there’s an odd conflict: you cannot charge the Switch if you’ve propped it up with its built-in (and rather flimsy) kickstand as a shared screen for multiplayer games like Super Bomberman R, where up to four people can play with one Joy-Con a piece. It’s not a massive deal, but it highlights the push and pull that typifies the system: it’s trying to be so many things at once that it can’t pull any of them off perfectly."

"It’s trying to be so many things at once that it can’t pull any of them off perfectly."

 

Really? Those a big problems for him? Holy shit IGN that's pathetic, wait until this thing seells like hotcakes and they do a re-review in one year droping most of this complains, upgrading the score and losing their credibility again.



Soundwave on 01 March 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
JRPGfan said:

"Even if the Switch’s questionable internals and control issues don’t dissuade you from using it like a gaming console, it suffers numerous other issues and inconveniences when it’s hooked up to your TV. The most glaring is that there is no way to lay the system on its side while docked, which is particularly irritating given that the game card slot, headphone jack, headphone volume controls, and power button are all along the top of the system. If you, like many people, keep your consoles in an entertainment system of some kind with shelves, there simply isn’t a convenient way to get to any of this stuff."

"Because that USB-C port is on the bottom of the tablet, there’s an odd conflict: you cannot charge the Switch if you’ve propped it up with its built-in (and rather flimsy) kickstand as a shared screen for multiplayer games like Super Bomberman R, where up to four people can play with one Joy-Con a piece. It’s not a massive deal, but it highlights the push and pull that typifies the system: it’s trying to be so many things at once that it can’t pull any of them off perfectly."

"It’s trying to be so many things at once that it can’t pull any of them off perfectly."

 

Really? Those a big problems for him? Holy shit IGN that's pathetic, wait until this thing seells like hotcakes and they do a re-review in one year droping most of this complains, upgrading the score and losing their credibility again.

Whether it sells or not is also irrelevant to this, it's like saying you shouldn't complain about the Wii having only 512MB of on-board storage because it sold well for a few years. 



Goodnightmoon on 01 March 2017
Soundwave said:
Goodnightmoon said:

Really? Those a big problems for him? Holy shit IGN that's pathetic, wait until this thing seells like hotcakes and they do a re-review in one year droping most of this complains, upgrading the score and losing their credibility again.

If they revise the hardware to address issues, doesn't that imply that the critics were right in the first place? Not really following your logic here at all. 

Whether it sells or not is also irrelevant to this, it's like saying you shouldn't complain about the Wii having only 512MB of on-board storage because it sold well for a few years. 

After this thing succeds they'll do a re-review without the extensive amount of nitpicky irrelevant stuff going on here, and valuing the console for what it is instead of for what it isn't. 

This review is really something else, of course everybody that dares to critique the guy for such a shittiy review is gonna be labeled as a blind Nintendo fanboy, but just read the review, is plenty of such stupid nitpicky stuff and is the most negative review by a mile, it feels like this man just doesn't want to like it.



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Soundwave on 01 March 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
Soundwave said:

If they revise the hardware to address issues, doesn't that imply that the critics were right in the first place? Not really following your logic here at all. 

Whether it sells or not is also irrelevant to this, it's like saying you shouldn't complain about the Wii having only 512MB of on-board storage because it sold well for a few years. 

After this thing succeds they'll do a re-review without the extensive amount of nitpicky irrelevant stuff going on here, and valuing the console for what it is instead of for what it isn't. 

This review is really something else, of course everybody that dares to critique the guy for such a shittiy review is gonna be labeled as a blind Nintendo fanboy,but just read the review, is  plenty of nitpicky stuff and is the most negative review by a mile, it feels like this man just doesn't want to like it.

I read the review, some of the criticisms are fair, and yes it was always going to be an issue of compromises made for portability vs. home play. 



specialk on 01 March 2017
ICStats said:

Err, that's almost entirely what they do.  Hardware reviews always make a judgment on whether they think a console is worth buying at that time or waiting.  The situation, and therefore recommendations will change over time.

I guess it's just weird to see. It's hard to think of anything else that is like that. Maybe new physical media?

The recommendation to adopt Laser Disc or DvD is going to be entirely dependent upon whether or not good movies continue to come out on that platform. Which is of course influenced by how many people adopt it.



Goodnightmoon on 01 March 2017
Soundwave said:
Goodnightmoon said:

After this thing succeds they'll do a re-review without the extensive amount of nitpicky irrelevant stuff going on here, and valuing the console for what it is instead of for what it isn't. 

This review is really something else, of course everybody that dares to critique the guy for such a shittiy review is gonna be labeled as a blind Nintendo fanboy,but just read the review, is  plenty of nitpicky stuff and is the most negative review by a mile, it feels like this man just doesn't want to like it.

I read the review, some of the criticisms are fair, and yes it was always going to be an issue of compromises made for portability vs. home play. 

That's the key word, "some"

But for most part is such a narrow minded review, is like he is having so much difficulty to understand this is not a handheld or a console but something new, is very like the modern gamer mentality, narrowminded, unflexible and without imagination.



Soundwave on 01 March 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
Soundwave said:

I read the review, some of the criticisms are fair, and yes it was always going to be an issue of compromises made for portability vs. home play. 

That's the key word, "some"

But for most part is such a narrow minded review, is like he is having so much difficulty to understand this is not a handheld or a console but something new, is very like the modern gamer mentality, narrowminded, unflexible and without imagination.

It's "new" but it still has to function as a home console and a handheld. If it doesn't do either in the reviewers mind satisfactorily, that's a fair critique. 



Goodnightmoon on 01 March 2017
Soundwave said:
Goodnightmoon said:

That's the key word, "some"

But for most part is such a narrow minded review, is like he is having so much difficulty to understand this is not a handheld or a console but something new, is very like the modern gamer mentality, narrowminded, unflexible and without imagination.

It's "new" but it still has to function as a home console and a handheld. If it doesn't do either in the reviewers mind satisfactorily, that's a fair critique. 

That's like shitting about laptops because the are not as portable as a mobiles or as powerful as a PC, yet people buy more laptops than PCs, this guy is unable to see beyond what he already knows.