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JRPGfan on 24 February 2017
Goodnightmoon said:
So following what Gamexplain say it only happens when there is an obstacle between the joycon and the console? Pardon my ignorance, but isn't that a pretty common issue of bluetooth devices?

Alot of bluetooth devices dont have the issue so no its not common.

Also the "obstacle" can be how you hold the joy-con.

If you have big hands, they might end up covering some part of the controller itself that shouldnt be covered, just by holding it.

Your own hands become a obstacle.

Its also been said even without a obstacle in the way, and holding it correctly, if your more than 5-6feet away your likely to run into this issue.



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JRPGfan on 24 February 2017
shenlong213 said:

Holy fudge! that was like more than a month ago....

Nostradamus level prediction right there.



Miyamotoo on 24 February 2017
NATO said:
Miyamotoo said:

It doesn't need controller to be updated, Switch can be updated to have stronger signal for Joy Cons.

To boost the console BT reception range would require delaying the console in the US to undergo FCC certification again.

You dont know that, we dont know what range Nintendo filed for Switch and what range actualy Switch is using, maybe that range from some reasons in some consoles is weaker than in other and that actually causing problems.



Louie on 24 February 2017
Faelco said:
Louie said:
So, we have the usual reaction to something like this: Nintendo fans saying it's not an issue and Sony fans declaring it's a huge problem and the console is going to fail, jumping with joy. Stuff like this always reminds me why I left this site for a few years.

OT: Let's see how big of a problem this is. My Wii U gamepad has the same "problem" but that never stopped me from playing. The Wiimote's pointer didn't work either when you covered it and the Wiimote+ had to be re-calibrated regularly. As long as you don't cover the joy-con with your hand it should be fine. Didn't stop the Wii at least. But we'll see.

Some reviewers said that they can't play Zelda with the Joy Cons, and that the pro controller is necessary because of this. If this can't be solved before launch, it is a big deal. The Switch becomes a $370 nude console because of the mandatory pro controller. 

You are jumping to conclusions. Maybe it can be fixed with a day one patch. Maybe it's just a minor problem for most people.

Remember when the rubber came off of the Dualshock 4 sticks at PS4 launch? Most people didn't think it was a huge issue and found a way to work around it. Remember "antenna-gate" with the iPhone 4? Same story. And same here: Most people will turn to a different sitting position so the Joy-Con isn't covered or move the Switch to a different place and the problem will be solved. The worst case scenario is that Nintendo will have to replace left joy-cons for free with a hardware revision for those people who complain. We simply don't know.



NATO on 24 February 2017
Miyamotoo said:
NATO said:

To boost the console BT reception range would require delaying the console in the US to undergo FCC certification again.

You dont know that, we dont know what range Nintendo filed for Switch and what range actualy Switch is using, maybe that range from some reasons in some consoles is weaker than in other and that actually causing problems.

I'm a hardware engineer, I have been for the past 15 years, any change in previously submitted hardware configuration has to go through FCC certification again, even if the change is minor, if it has anything to do with transmitted radio frequency, it has to go through cert, even if the power increase was minimal, it effects the previously certified range, and thus makes the current fcc certification invalid.

The testing checks that the operating range is within certified limits, any changes to the base configuration requires that these changes be certified again, even if it's a no-brainer that they would still be within regulation.



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Dr.Vita on 24 February 2017

Damn that sounds not good.




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vivster on 24 February 2017
Rogerioandrade said:
Did anyone experience those issues when visiting and playing in any of the Nintendo events? Are there any reports?

Those experiences were much shorter and in a controlled environment. It's likely that it didn't occur in the time frame. That's why there are no reports of it.



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JRPGfan on 24 February 2017
NATO said:
Miyamotoo said:

You dont know that, we dont know what range Nintendo filed for Switch and what range actualy Switch is using, maybe that range from some reasons in some consoles is weaker than in other and that actually causing problems.

I'm a hardware engineer, I have been for the past 15 years, any change in previously submitted hardware configuration has to go through FCC certification again, even if the change is minor, if it has anything to do with transmitted radio frequency, it has to go through cert, even if the power increase was minimal, it effects the previously certified range, and thus makes the current fcc certification invalid.

The testing checks that the operating range is within certified limits, any changes to the base configuration requires that these changes be certified again, even if it's a no-brainer that they would still be within regulation.

I couldnt help but lol.

So this means either Nintendo delays to fix the issue? or they ship as is and just ignore the problem for now?

Maybe later versions of the switch will come with better joy-cons?



Miyamotoo on 24 February 2017
NATO said:
Miyamotoo said:

You dont know that, we dont know what range Nintendo filed for Switch and what range actualy Switch is using, maybe that range from some reasons in some consoles is weaker than in other and that actually causing problems.

I'm a hardware engineer, I have been for the past 15 years, any change in previously submitted hardware configuration has to go through FCC certification again, even if the change is minor, if it has anything to do with transmitted radio frequency, it has to go through cert, even if the power increase was minimal, it effects the previously certified range, and thus makes the current fcc certification invalid.

The testing checks that the operating range is within certified limits, any changes to the base configuration requires that these changes be certified again, even if it's a no-brainer that they would still be within regulation.

Point is that we don't know details, so definitely you can't say "Nintendo cant do that". Maybe those faulty Joy Cons are running at lower range than other Switch consoles and at lower range than for which Nintendo filed certification.



Miyamotoo on 24 February 2017
JRPGfan said:
NATO said:

I'm a hardware engineer, I have been for the past 15 years, any change in previously submitted hardware configuration has to go through FCC certification again, even if the change is minor, if it has anything to do with transmitted radio frequency, it has to go through cert, even if the power increase was minimal, it effects the previously certified range, and thus makes the current fcc certification invalid.

The testing checks that the operating range is within certified limits, any changes to the base configuration requires that these changes be certified again, even if it's a no-brainer that they would still be within regulation.

I couldnt help but lol.

So this means either Nintendo delays to fix the issue? or they ship as is and just ignore the problem for now?

Maybe later versions of the switch will come with better joy-cons?

No, that doesn't mean that. We don't know details about problem. Maybe those faulty Joy Cons are running at lower range than other Switch consoles and at lower range than for which Nintendo filed certification.