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TheBlackNaruto on 23 February 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
TheBlackNaruto said:

Well to be fair...and I am just pointing this out here......it is a choice to be a transgender.....so would that be ignorant to say?

Mind you as a straight male I see it as to each his/her own and do as you please. But being a transgender is 99% of the time a choice that someone consciously makes.

I think when people refer to transgenders they are referring to people with the feeling they are "trapped in the wrong body". So in that sense, it's not really a choice. Whether they actually do anything about it however is of course a choice.

Really? Well then I am WAY out of the loop lol. I thought a transgender was someone that went out and had surgery and changed their body parts. So it is just someone who feels trapped in the wrong body whether they do something about it or not?



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vivster on 23 February 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
vivster said:

So it's ok if they just use stalls then? More free urinals for you so you don't have to touch the dirty stalls.

I guess? But seeing them come in/out could still be awkward.

But you can't see their genitals then, so it's not awkward. You can just assume they have the "right" ones.



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outlawauron on 23 February 2017

We care about bathrooms again?



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vivster on 23 February 2017
outlawauron said:
We care about bathrooms again?

The president cares, so all of America should care. Must have something to do with national security.



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gatito on 23 February 2017

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FentonCrackshell on 23 February 2017

All I have to say is that I'm sure I've been in the bathroom with a transgender person before. I don't know when though because I've never turned my head at the urinal. If you're looking at the person next to you or peering over/under their stall then you're the pervert, not them.



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Peh on 23 February 2017
TheBlackNaruto said:
Peh said:
I don't really have an opinion on that, because I don't mind transgender.
But I feel the argument sterms from the same ignorant one which is : "it's a choice to be gay".

Well to be fair...and I am just pointing this out here......it is a choice to be a transgender.....so would that be ignorant to say?

Mind you as a straight male I see it as to each his/her own and do as you please. But being a transgender is 99% of the time a choice that someone consciously makes.

Well, I disagree with you.

http://www.ozy.com/pov/check-the-science-being-trans-is-not-a-choice/69726

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/brynn-tannehill/the-choice-that-isnt_b_3574277.html

http://sitn.hms.harvard.edu/flash/2016/gender-lines-science-transgender-identity/

It's the same as it is not your or my choice to be heterosexual. We are just made that way.



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FentonCrackshell on 23 February 2017

Give'em their own bathrooms. This way the clowns can wait inside or outside of it and harass/beat them. Point them out an label them. Make them wear some sort of emblem so that we in society can tell them apart from everyone else. That's worked before, hasn't it?



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JRPGfan on 23 February 2017
Ka-pi96 said:
VGPolyglot said:

Why?

Because I don't think people should be able to walk in whichever bathroom they want just because they "feel" a certain way. Bathrooms (and certain other places) are separated by gender for a reason and "feelings" don't change those reasons.

Its gonna be super weird when that one guy dressed up and looking like a girl, enters the boys bath room though.



Rogerioandrade on 23 February 2017
TheBlackNaruto said:
Ka-pi96 said:

I think when people refer to transgenders they are referring to people with the feeling they are "trapped in the wrong body". So in that sense, it's not really a choice. Whether they actually do anything about it however is of course a choice.

Really? Well then I am WAY out of the loop lol. I thought a transgender was someone that went out and had surgery and changed their body parts. So it is just someone who feels trapped in the wrong body whether they do something about it or not?

Yep. That´s the point. Imagine a man that wants to use the woman´s bathroom just because he´s using women´s clothes, acessories and have a feminine personality.  Although all those measures, he´s still a man. 

If the person already passed through  surgical procedures, documents  replacement etc. then there´s nothing to discuss about. They just need to use the proper bathroom for "their current sexual situation".