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Peh said:
Slimebeast said:

Of course.

Just like it's done in research and in official statistics all over the world. You see, the offspring largely inherit the behaviour of their parents.

To me somebody who is born here but is ethnically foreign and behaves very un-Swedish is not a Swede whatsoever. Fuck no.

(but even if we strictly count only immigrants, they sure as hell don't commit only 1% of crime, they'd still reach at least 40% or more).

Racistic and insulting. I mean.. common.  "the offspring largely inherit the behaviour of their parents" No source to backup this claim.

LOL

It's controversial to say "the offspring largely inherit the behaviour of their parents"? It's racist? And insulting?  You believe there are no sources to backup such a basic, elementary fact in behaviour biology? LOL

You would be laughed out of biology class in Uni or from Med school.



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BraLoD said:
VGPolyglot said:

So, even if they have Swedish citizenship, you don't consider them Swedish because of their skin colour?

Because they act "un-Swedish", obviously, as they don't follow the national book of "how to be a Swede" to be considered an actual official citizen.

Citizenship is not the same thing as ethnicity.

Being a Swede has two meanings.

A "Swede" is not just a person who is a citizen of the nation state called Sweden, it's also a term for a person who belongs to an ethnic group of people called Swedes.

Very shocking for some people, I know.



Slimebeast said:
BraLoD said:

Because they act "un-Swedish", obviously, as they don't follow the national book of "how to be a Swede" to be considered an actual official citizen.

Citizenship is not the same thing as ethnicity.

Being a Swede has two meanings.

A "Swede" is not just a person who is a citizen of the nation state called Sweden, it's also a term for a person who belongs to an ethnic group of people called Swedes.

Very shocking for some people, I know.

And you wonder why immigrants have trouble integrating? It's because of people like you. There are people who were born and raised in Sweden, who speak Swedish, whose only home they know is Sweden, who have lived and become accustomed to Swedish culture, yet because of their ethnicity, or because they celebrate Eid instead of Christmas, are ostracized by people who refuse to allow them to become known as Swedes.



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Slimebeast said:
Peh said:

Racistic and insulting. I mean.. common.  "the offspring largely inherit the behaviour of their parents" No source to backup this claim.

LOL

It's controversial to say "the offspring largely inherit the behaviour of their parents"? It's racist? And insulting?  You believe there are no sources to backup such a basic, elementary fact in behaviour biology? LOL

You would be laughed out of biology class in Uni or from Med school.

Your whole post is racistic and insulting. The context of your debate is about the crime rate. You say that crime is also inheritable to the offsprings by the post of yours in said context. You made a claim, without providing the evidence for it. Yet, again.  



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VGPolyglot said:
Slimebeast said:

Citizenship is not the same thing as ethnicity.

Being a Swede has two meanings.

A "Swede" is not just a person who is a citizen of the nation state called Sweden, it's also a term for a person who belongs to an ethnic group of people called Swedes.

Very shocking for some people, I know.

And you wonder why immigrants have trouble integrating? It's because of people like you. There are people who were born and raised in Sweden, who speak Swedish, whose only home they know is Sweden, who have lived and become accustomed to Swedish culture, yet because of their ethnicity, or because they celebrate Eid instead of Christmas, are ostracized by people who refuse to allow them to become known as Swedes.

Key words: "become accustomed to Swedish culture".

Why on earth do you think I am ostracizing these kinds of people? On the contrary, I am strongly encouraging such assimilation.



Slimebeast said:
VGPolyglot said:

And you wonder why immigrants have trouble integrating? It's because of people like you. There are people who were born and raised in Sweden, who speak Swedish, whose only home they know is Sweden, who have lived and become accustomed to Swedish culture, yet because of their ethnicity, or because they celebrate Eid instead of Christmas, are ostracized by people who refuse to allow them to become known as Swedes.

Key words: "become accustomed to Swedish culture".

Why on earth do you think I am ostracizing these kinds of people? On the contrary, I am strongly encouraging such assimilation.

Because you're frequently making reference to Swedish immigrants and how it doesn't matter whether they were born here, it matters what their ethnicity is because that determines whether they're Swedish or not, and you were saying that people that are from Sweden but are a racial minority are more dangerous than ethnic Swedes, so it's not just assimilation to you, you put a huge importance on race.



Peh said:
Slimebeast said:

LOL

It's controversial to say "the offspring largely inherit the behaviour of their parents"? It's racist? And insulting?  You believe there are no sources to backup such a basic, elementary fact in behaviour biology? LOL

You would be laughed out of biology class in Uni or from Med school.

Your whole post is racistic and insulting. The context of your debate is about the crime rate. You say that crime is also inheritable to the offsprings by the post of yours in said context. You made a claim, without providing the evidence for it. Yet, again.  

It's elementary knowledge. All kinds of behaviour is partly inheritable from our parents if we have been brought up by them, at least on the group level statistically.

And when it comes to criminal behaviour specifically, this has been firmly demonstrated.

You're being upset by elementary facts of life for no good reason, and using labels based on your emotional perspective on the world.



VGPolyglot said:
Slimebeast said:

Key words: "become accustomed to Swedish culture".

Why on earth do you think I am ostracizing these kinds of people? On the contrary, I am strongly encouraging such assimilation.

Because you're frequently making reference to Swedish immigrants and how it doesn't matter whether they were born here, it matters what their ethnicity is because that determines whether they're Swedish or not, and you were saying that people that are from Sweden but are a racial minority are more dangerous than ethnic Swedes, so it's not just assimilation to you, you put a huge importance on race.

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that "it doesn't matter".

It does matter (with regards to criminal behaviour) whether a person was born here, but only to a certain degree.

Ethnicity has a strong correlation with criminal behaviour. Deal with it.



Slimebeast said:
VGPolyglot said:

Because you're frequently making reference to Swedish immigrants and how it doesn't matter whether they were born here, it matters what their ethnicity is because that determines whether they're Swedish or not, and you were saying that people that are from Sweden but are a racial minority are more dangerous than ethnic Swedes, so it's not just assimilation to you, you put a huge importance on race.

Don't put words in my mouth. I didn't say that "it doesn't matter".

It does matter (with regards to criminal behaviour) whether a person was born here, but only to a certain degree.

Ethnicity has a strong correlation with criminal behaviour. Deal with it.

See, it's not mainly about assimilation to you. It's about race. And where's your proof that it's race is causation to criminal behaviour, and not socio-economic factors?