| Radek said: Final Fantasy XV: 84% of sales on PS4 (4.30 million) 16% of sales on Xbox One (0.82 million) |
820k at retail with a chance of it being at 1m with digital for just a port is really good money.
OP- The more games the better.
Radek said:
I fail to see why? Xbox Scorpio will aim for 4K resolution or close to it, all GPU power will go towards that and/or higher details. 4K is 5.7x higher than 900p 4K is 4x higher than 1080p. Don't expect 60 fps gaming in majority of games, extra RAM will go towards higher resolution textures. |
I think what liquid_faction meant is that higher res will not make much difference the gfx upgrade is going to be minimal of these mid gen console. So Microsoft should kill Xbone and use Scorpio as the base platform for a new gen which can make a big difference. I agree with his assessment too. But Microsoft do not want to take risk.
| malistix1985 said: Might change slightly in favour for xbox next year, I meen I know a lot of people who own both consoles and will obviously pick the ps4 version because its graphically better. With the Xbox Scorpio someone like, well me!, would have picked up the ps4 version last year (i did) but if I had to make the same choice after my scorpio arrives I would prefer the Xbox version over the PS4 version because the scorpio should deliver a better experience. Also keep in mind this is Phil Spencers "first Xbox Console" the disaster he inherrited from his predicessor has been a constant cloud of judgement, rightfully so, xbox in 2013 was a laughing stock for anyone who loves gaming. Surely trying to change this with a better team in the lead trying to change the opinion ps4 is superiot to xbox in every way is going to take risks and investments. If they choose to once again work with and develop with japanese publishers only good things can happen. During the PS3 and Xbox360 era when I owned both consoles they did deliver some amazing games. |
This excuse is wearing thin now. He has had four years to try harder with Japan now and has seemingly done nothing. Not even sure Scalebound was down to him. Now he wants a few Japanese titles to announce alongside Scorpio to make it look good, and we know from experience as soon as those games fail to sell well on Xbox, support and interest on MS's part will disappear
celador said:
This excuse is wearing thin now. He has had four years to try harder with Japan now and has seemingly done nothing. Not even sure Scalebound was down to him. Now he wants a few Japanese titles to announce alongside Scorpio to make it look good, and we know from experience as soon as those games fail to sell well on Xbox, support and interest on MS's part will disappear |
He started as head of Xbox in march 2014, thats less then 3 years ago and he started with his former college making almost only "online" titles and having put out the weakest console, he changed a lot made online policies better, backwards compatability and started some single player games among the mess.
Sure he's not a saint and they are all out for profit but I genuinely believe he made the horrible product a sellable one with the Xbox One and the Scorpio will be the first console he launches as head of Xbox so this excuse has not worn thin yet, when the scorpio is out for about a year and things are still a mess, then we can start blaming Phil
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jason1637 said:
820k at retail with a chance of it being at 1m with digital for just a port is really good money. OP- The more games the better. |
It's FF15, the biggest Japanese third party title in years, with a lot of advertising in the West, and even Xbox exclusive advertising like at E3. It's surely the best Xbox share a Japanese game can get.
15% is completely useless for most Japanese titles that sell nowhere near FF15 numbers.
Other games tried to be Xbox exclusive. Psycho Pass was an exclusive, but never released in the West and then had to quickly release a PS4 and PSVita versions (and the West only got these versions). Scalebound was an exclusive.... Oh, Recore was a PC/Xbox exclusive too with a lot of advertising, but even its sales were really disappointing.
Phil can do whatever he wants, it's just not worth it for anyone. The only way it's worth it for the developer is if MS fund the development (like Scalebound), but we know it can end badly and it's not worth it for MS that way, too much money thrown out the window. Too much Japanese games on PS4 (and maybe Switch) anyway, the players interested in those games won't buy an Xbox One for a couple of MS-funded games when the other consoles have 20 or 50 more games.
@Malistix: Spencer was the head of the Microsoft Studios before becoming the head of Xbox, so you can't say that he has nothing to do with the strategy around "only online" XBox games...
gtaguidelng said:
You mean in japan? |
No, worldwide X1 owners.
Already own three Xbox Ones. I guess I'll give one away when Scorpio releases. It needs a good E3 to get me to quadruple dip, though!
| Radek said: I thought Xbox gamers don't care about "niche" Japanese games that don't sell or drive console sales? Also why is he saying "getting FF XV" when they already had XIII, XIII-2 and Lightning Returns? |
Geez, this guy. He's acting like that game wasn't coming to XBO and had to do some great negotiating to get it. Of course that was coming to XBO. FF is one of the few Japanese games that sells well enough on the Xbox to warrant a port.
| Faelco said: It's FF15, the biggest Japanese third party title in years, with a lot of advertising in the West, and even Xbox exclusive advertising like at E3. It's surely the best Xbox share a Japanese game can get. 15% is completely useless for most Japanese titles that sell nowhere near FF15 numbers. Other games tried to be Xbox exclusive. Psycho Pass was an exclusive, but never released in the West and then had to quickly release a PS4 and PSVita versions (and the West only got these versions). Scalebound was an exclusive.... Oh, Recore was a PC/Xbox exclusive too with a lot of advertising, but even its sales were really disappointing. Phil can do whatever he wants, it's just not worth it for anyone. The only way it's worth it for the developer is if MS fund the development (like Scalebound), but we know it can end badly and it's not worth it for MS that way, too much money thrown out the window. Too much Japanese games on PS4 (and maybe Switch) anyway, the players interested in those games won't buy an Xbox One for a couple of MS-funded games when the other consoles have 20 or 50 more games.
@Malistix: Spencer was the head of the Microsoft Studios before becoming the head of Xbox, so you can't say that he has nothing to do with the strategy around "only online" XBox games... |
It is amazing to me the mental gymnastics used by fans to make the original XBO vision all Matrick's fault. He is but one part of what is wrong at MS concerning gaming. Spencer is a part of that, too. Just because Sony is kicking their ass, again, forcing them to be better just to sell less than half as much as the PS4, doesn't make Spencer a great guy all of a sudden.
As someone said, this most likely is just so the Scorpio has a few Japanese games at launch to try to appeal to those gamers. Once they fail on it, MS will give up on Japan altogether. Notice how they didn't care about it before the Scorpio launch.
coolbeans said:
As I already considered. But that doesn't take away that the 2 1/2-ish years before the PS4 Pro announcement saw the PS4 (the most powerful 'standard' console of the 8th gen before) mopping up the competition in regards to sales. I'm not suggesting power was the main key to said success, but it clearly shows that saying isn't bulletproof. |
PS winning a gen is the norm though which they've done twice before while having weaker hardware. And last gen saw the Wii lead which was the weakest. Implying (im not saying you are, but for someone who does) that a generation will be won or lost based on the power of a console is absurd when all historical data points to last gen being an anomaly, and this gen being "back to normal" with Sony on top. They've been #1 3 out of 4 times while not being the most powerful 2 out of 4 times. That PS4 is the most powerful this time around and still winning is a coincidence, I'd say the brand behind the product is a much bigger reason for their success.
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