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I am a naturalized American citizen, I am originally from Brazil. I feel like I am the most privileged man in the world. I am so grateful that I had the chance to become an American.

People in Brazil are always afraid of being robbed or killed and people have no right to self-preservation.

Brazil is a chaotic place, where leftism has dominated every sector of the Brazilian main stream culture.

Police officers work under tremendous pressure with no support at all. They are underpaid and work under horrible conditions.



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BraLoD said:
LipeJJ said:

That's the thing. I agree that a lot of places in Brazil are dangerous, but not all of them. Not even close. If you say that, you must live in a somewhat dangerous area. Plus, most countries have dangerous cities/neighbourhoods/etc. It's not an excuse... it must be terrible to lose a friend that way indeed, but all I'm saying it that given the place he lived it's not really surprising and that it doesn't mean that ALL places here are dangerous like that. That's where I think people are overreating (let's face it: we, brazilians, are drama queens when it comes to our country... we like to criticize everything, even the parts that are good).

Basically every place aside of the South states are dangerous places, I live in a "cidade do interior" from SP, which are considered more calm, and shit is real around here, I don't dare putting up earphones to walk on the street at the middle of the day, and there is a police station pretty close my house (which was once attacked), we had organized crime issuing "toques de recolher" several times here and I had to take the buss almost midnight, during it, to get back from the university, and walk a kilometer home wishing nothing happened to me, my house was attempted for invasion at least a dozen times, the time I mentioned on a post above, in 2012, was right after they invaded a small marketplace near here, some of my neighbours had their house invaded, my grandma that lives two quarters from here had her house invaded but was gladly not there at the time, one of my friends was also held at gun point, tied, on his house right near here, twice, an armed guy robbed me and my friend while we were playing with kites when we were kids, a gun robbery for a fucking kite, we also had two guys steal another friend bicycle at the same spot two years before, I saw another friend being chased by an armed guy right in front of here as well, the guy passed right through me with the gun (gladly my friend escaped), then last year we had the shoutout right in front of my workplace that looked like a warzone...

And on Northeast and Rio there is way, way, way more shit happening, now even on ES just because the police wants a raise, shit is real there, like it was on Bahia/Pernambuco, some of this past years as well.

The South states are basically the only non-dangerous places around here, sure, not every city is a criminal chaos, but it's pretty damn dangerous all over this country, and we have insane death counts backing it up, so it's not really much of an exaggerarion.

Eh... I guess I'm the luckiest person in the world then. I live in Rio and was never robbed, and neither were my friends. Sure, I live in a great neighborhood, but still... I really don't fear going out there with my earphones on like you, and I see tons of people doing it daily (without getting robbed). I'll attribute that to my neighborhood then. .-.

Btw, I agree with you regarding the 3 south states... most places are pretty safe down there.



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Norris2k said:
Lawlight said:

Can you elaborate on the emmigration options? I'd be very curious about those.

Just my 2 cents, but I went to Japan on a working holiday. It's a one year visa, you can work and it's not very hard to get, the only condition is to have a few savings and less than 30 years old. It seems that Brazil has at least an agreement with France, Germany, South Korea, and New Zealand. By the way Japan is really amazing in term of security, it's really like nothing can happen, noone I know has ever been robbed, I have never seen a fight, it's perfectly peaceful, you walk alone by night, and you just can't thing something could happen.  

I've watched "Ciudad de Dios" a long time ago, superb but disturbing movie, made me feel that's where we are heading to in Europe. Anyway sorry for your loss, that's hard. Don't overthink before things cool down.

Brazil doesn't seem to have working holiday visa agreements with any country based on the link below:

http://global-goose.com/working-holiday-visas-countries/

Furthermore, as you say it's for those that are single, less than 30 and you can mostly only undertake unskilled work and work a limited amount of hours per week.

So not an option.



WolfpackN64 said:

 

Lawlight said:

How the hell would he head for Europe? On what visa?

If he's lucky, he could try to get a work visa. Most EU countries aren't very strict towards immigration from Latin America.

He's not lucky then. The EU is very strict about immigration from countries outside of the EU. I know you think the EU is some example of free movement and welcoming of migrants but it's really not. Unless you're a refugee, of course.



invetedlotus123 said:
lonerism said:
Well, I'm from Brazil too (Curitiba, Paraná) and I haven't seen something like that here

I'm really sorry for your loss, our country is a mess right now... I really wish I could just move from here. I'm grateful that Paraná is a very rich state, so we're not facing lack of security here (well not yet lol).

I thought Dilma's administration was bad, but Michel Temer is even worst. F*** bastard


I`ll replie in english so anyone in the forum can follow the discussion

In Goiás the state of public security is horrendous. Marconi Perillo is a fucking bastard, he refuses to hire new police men even having more than one thousand people that passed the public tests and are just waiting to be trained and start their work. He always do that, he knows things are going to shit, but he let`s it happen so he can sell the miracle solution of privatization of said public service, wich works a little but isn`t any magic solution also. 

I`ve already traveled to the south, I visited Curitiba, Florianopolis, Guaratuba and Maringá and some other smaller cities, when I as a child I went there almost twice a year because of my step-father. And I also visited a lot of the North because my grandparents from my mother side lived in Tocantins. The difference in realities is brutal, I mean, it`s like there`s two or more countries inside Brazil, one part looks like Africa and the other like Europe. I visited Salvador last year, and for particular reasons I`ll going to move there once I finish my education in Goiania. Is a nice city if you stay in the nices places, but what shocked the most there is the racial segregation. I mean, if you go to the mall most people are white, but just outside the mall most people are black. 

That's not segregation. You're confusing poor with middle class. Also, don't black people make a small fraction of the population? And where are the other ethnicities? 



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Nem said:
gigaSheik said:

Europe is done. The leftists destroyed the entire world.

What the f are you talking about?

 

First, how is europe done?

Second if this is because of the EU, i will let you know that the right wing has been in power in most EU countries for quite sometime, so it's exactly the opposite.

 

I don't know where your BS is coming from, but it stinks. Left wing actually cares more about the people than right wing extremism. Right wing extremism is what brings racism and xenophobia. It's what allows douchebags to take advantage of the uneducated with radical promises that bring war and damage to their own country but profit to themselves by blaming minorities. 

I can only wish europe was left wing atm, cause it would be an even better place. 

 

Tbh, using big generalisations like left and right wing is dumb. It all depends on the people running the parties. What may be a terrible socialist party can be a good one on another country. They are not one and the same. They are just based on similar values, but exert them differently.

I'd argue that left wing extremism is what's dividing the EU countries atm.



That's all they did to him? Read about Emmit Till. The US did and does worse. This country isn't and never has been a safe haven. Especially if you are not white. Sorry to hear about your friend, but Brazil does not have mass shootings so it could be worse.



Lawlight said:
Norris2k said:

Just my 2 cents, but I went to Japan on a working holiday. It's a one year visa, you can work and it's not very hard to get, the only condition is to have a few savings and less than 30 years old. It seems that Brazil has at least an agreement with France, Germany, South Korea, and New Zealand. By the way Japan is really amazing in term of security, it's really like nothing can happen, noone I know has ever been robbed, I have never seen a fight, it's perfectly peaceful, you walk alone by night, and you just can't thing something could happen.  

I've watched "Ciudad de Dios" a long time ago, superb but disturbing movie, made me feel that's where we are heading to in Europe. Anyway sorry for your loss, that's hard. Don't overthink before things cool down.

Brazil doesn't seem to have working holiday visa agreements with any country based on the link below:

http://global-goose.com/working-holiday-visas-countries/

Furthermore, as you say it's for those that are single, less than 30 and you can mostly only undertake unskilled work and work a limited amount of hours per week.

So not an option.

My mistake, I checked on a website that was nothing official.



BraLoD said:
LipeJJ said:

That's the thing. I agree that a lot of places in Brazil are dangerous, but not all of them. Not even close. If you say that, you must live in a somewhat dangerous area. Plus, most countries have dangerous cities/neighbourhoods/etc. It's not an excuse... it must be terrible to lose a friend that way indeed, but all I'm saying it that given the place he lived it's not really surprising and that it doesn't mean that ALL places here are dangerous like that. That's where I think people are overreating (let's face it: we, brazilians, are drama queens when it comes to our country... we like to criticize everything, even the parts that are good).

Basically every place aside of the South states are dangerous places, I live in a "cidade do interior" from SP, which are considered more calm, and shit is real around here, I don't dare putting up earphones to walk on the street at the middle of the day, and there is a police station pretty close my house (which was once attacked), we had organized crime issuing "toques de recolher" several times here and I had to take the buss almost midnight, during it, to get back from the university, and walk a kilometer home wishing nothing happened to me, my house was attempted for invasion at least a dozen times, the time I mentioned on a post above, in 2012, was right after they invaded a small marketplace near here, some of my neighbours had their house invaded, my grandma that lives two quarters from here had her house invaded but was gladly not there at the time, one of my friends was also held at gun point, tied, on his house right near here, twice, an armed guy robbed me and my friend while we were playing with kites when we were kids, a gun robbery for a fucking kite, we also had two guys steal another friend bicycle at the same spot two years before, I saw another friend being chased by an armed guy right in front of here as well, the guy passed right through me with the gun (gladly my friend escaped), then last year we had the shoutout right in front of my workplace that looked like a warzone...

And on Northeast and Rio there is way, way, way more shit happening, now even on ES just because the police wants a raise, shit is real there, like it was on Bahia/Pernambuco, some of this past years as well.

The South states are basically the only non-dangerous places around here, sure, not every city is a criminal chaos, but it's pretty damn dangerous all over this country, and we have insane death counts backing it up, so it's not really much of an exaggerarion.

Actually, Rio Grande do Sul is dangerous too. The only safe cities here are the very small ones (less than five thousand citizens), but even they are changing. Maybe you mean Santa Catarina and Paraná, which looks a little better. But not that much.

I'm quite curious about where LipeJJ lives in Rio to say that the concern with security in Brazil is drama. I don't quite remember knowing anyone (I live in São Leopoldo, but lived in two cities in São Paulo and have friends in Rio de Janeiro and family in Santa Catarina) that wasn't or doesn't have anyone near them that wasn't robbed or even killed by criminals. I was robbed twice here in Rio Grande do Sul (once in my city and one time in Porto Alegre), my mom had her car stolen with a gun pointed to his head, my father had his car stolen with a gun pointed to his head twice, the father of a friend of mine in Rio was killed. And she doesn't live in a dangerous area. Neither do I or my parents. I'm from middle class and most of my friends and family are from middle or higher class, living in good neighbourhood.



Lawlight said:
Nem said:

What the f are you talking about?

 

First, how is europe done?

Second if this is because of the EU, i will let you know that the right wing has been in power in most EU countries for quite sometime, so it's exactly the opposite.

 

I don't know where your BS is coming from, but it stinks. Left wing actually cares more about the people than right wing extremism. Right wing extremism is what brings racism and xenophobia. It's what allows douchebags to take advantage of the uneducated with radical promises that bring war and damage to their own country but profit to themselves by blaming minorities. 

I can only wish europe was left wing atm, cause it would be an even better place. 

 

Tbh, using big generalisations like left and right wing is dumb. It all depends on the people running the parties. What may be a terrible socialist party can be a good one on another country. They are not one and the same. They are just based on similar values, but exert them differently.

I'd argue that left wing extremism is what's dividing the EU countries atm.


Sure. Point me to extreme left parties in power in western europe.

Heck, just moderate left theres only 1 or 2.