You think we need more cartoony/retro style games? | |||
| Yes I do | 62 | 70.45% | |
| No I don't | 26 | 29.55% | |
| Total: | 88 | ||
I agree, Retro Studios needs to be expanded under Nintendo so they can make more games, more frequently. Good OP!
Alkibiádēs said:
You do realize we have this thing called youtube, right? I've watched let's plays of many games I never bothered playing. It's quite obvious you don't have any real arguments as to why Knack is supposedly a platformer anyway. |
Knack is a platforming beat 'em up video game developed by SCE Japan Studio and published by Sony Computer Entertainment for the PlayStation 4 video game console.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knack_(video_game)
Ratchet & Clank is a series of science fiction, action-oriented platformer video games.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_%26_Clank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_game
Ok? Ok.
Hunting Season is done...
Zoombael said:
Knack is a platforming beat 'em up video game developed by SCE Japan Studio and published by Sony Computer Entertainment for the PlayStation 4 video game console. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Knack_(video_game)
Ratchet & Clank is a series of science fiction, action-oriented platformer video games. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_%26_Clank
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Platform_game
Ok? Ok. |
They can call it what they want, I saw almost no platforming in Knack. Calling that a platformer is an insult to the genre.
"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides
Alkibiádēs said:
They can call it what they want, I saw almost no platforming in Knack. Calling that a platformer is an insult to the genre. |
Yeah, I like Knack to the point of platting it and playing the companion mobile game, but I wouldn't call it a platformer.
I definitely want more games like Yooka Laylee! God, I can't wait to play it.
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arcaneguyver said:
Yeah, I like Knack to the point of platting it and playing the companion mobile game, but I wouldn't call it a platformer. |
Gave up on the plat but I most certainly would call it a platformer.
Yeah I'd say so, though we're getting there... Ratchet, Yooka-Laylee and now Crash Bandicoot, I'm glad the 3d Platformer is making some sort of comeback.
Actually, what I miss the most from the old games is local co-op. And that goes along very well with cartoony games. It's hard to find a game like this in XOne that it's not indie (honestly, it's so hard to find an indie game that I really appreciate, like Limbo).
OP: I really don't know if I want more retro style games. You know, you can play the old games anytime in various ways and launch a game in 2017 with the same style (artwise and gameplaywise) doesn't have the same impact. I think retro style/cartoony games are niche and that's exactly what they should be. Yooka-Laylee and Cuphead are in the top in the list of games I will purchase this year, but that occurs just because it's not common to find new games like that. Nintendo will always have a good number of retro style games and even Sony seems to care about that market (Knack, Ratchet and Clank, Crash remake), so I think we have the right amount of this kind of games.
If you're talking about cartoony games as opposite of realistic looking games, then I have to agree with you. Plants vs Zomies GW2, Zelda WW HD and Gravity Rush 2, for example, look beautiful. I really enjoy that kind of graphics.
| OdinHades said: Games don't need to be Retro at all. They should however try to do more in term of gameplay. A game needs to be easy to pick up and play, it should be self-explanatory. If you need a big ass tutorial for your game that bores the shit out of the player for 45 mins, you're doing it wrong. On the other hand, games need enough depth to motivate you for a long time and multiple play-throughs. Easy to learn, hard to master is the magic formula. Many games of the past had such qualities, like Mega Man, Metroid or Super Mario. You can play these and a shitload of other old games until this very day and have a blast with it. Many, if not most, modern titles lack such well crafted gameplay. Too many times a boring story is presented as the main deal, gameplay falls short. Think about Call of Duty or Uncharted. Sure, first play-through is a lot of fun and all, but would you ever touch those games again? I know I wouldn't. What I'm missing today is the magic that only games are able to achieve. Gaming was always about interactivity. About doing what you want. But while graphics are crushing throzgh the roof, gameplay too many times takes the exact different route. Despite all that hardware power I keep getting messages like "Get back to the battlefield!", "Don't go there!", "Do this and that first!" or some shit. Add some lame cutscenes and I'm bored to death. Back in the days there was no holding hands. When I wasn't ready for a region in Link to the past or Final Fantasy, I found out the hard way. The games allowed me to do what I wanted to do without restrictions. I could kill each and every civilian in Half-Life, while in HL2 that's not possible anymore. I could kill my own party members in Baldur's Gate or go insane in the middle of town for no goddamn reason. Today's games? Sorry no, you have to follow the script! Do you know what I mean? I don't feel like the player anymore, I often feel like an actor thatbhas to do everything the director tells him. Even in praised games like the last of us. I want more freedom again and less boring stories. More exploring, more challenges, more secrets. All that stuff. The style of a game doesn't matter at all. If the game itself is good, I'll take it no matter what it looks like. GTA 4 looked insanely real for its time and I loved it. But I also love cartoony games like Mario or something. It really doesn't matter, it's all about the gameplay and I am certain that it's only because of changes in gameplay that games today feel so much different and more and more people like to play older games again. |
Never thought about that. Now, I'm sad.
| Barkley said: Yeah I'd say so, though we're getting there... Ratchet, Yooka-Laylee and now Crash Bandicoot, I'm glad the 3d Platformer is making some sort of comeback. |
I'm going to make a thread at some point pitting the four big platformers this year against each other (Mario, Sonic, Crash and Yooka-Laylee). I'm waiting for at least some gameplay videos of Sonic. It's a golden year for 3D platformers this year.
"The strong do what they can and the weak suffer what they must" - Thoukydides
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