zorg1000 said:
Nuvendil said:
While I disagree with him that this is an issue, he has some grounds for this. A big part of what killed the Wii U was the fact that Wii Sports, while it made Nintendo lots of money, wound up thoroughly ruining the Wii brand. Ask most people what the first thing they think of with the Wii, the first five things will be Wii Sports, Wii Sports Resort, Wii Fit, Mario Kart, and shovelware. That's the average Joe Consumer response. Now, the Wii got a ton of success ahead of that becoming an issue, but with the more conected time we live in that process could happen much faster with the Switch, especially since people are predisposed towards that attitude now.
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No, Wii Sports did not hurt the Wii brand, that is one of the most rediculous claims I have ever heard.
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If you think the Wii becoming 100% synonymous with motion controlled party-orriented games with little substance that were consistently marketed towards a market outside the primary demographics that made up the dedicated gaming device market in gens 1 to 6 and now makes up the market in gen 8 had no impact on the Wii brand then...well I have no idea what to even say to that.
Nearly every average consumer of dedicated gaming devices lambasts the Wii for being tainted by "casual" motion controlled games like Wii Sports, Wii Fit, Wii Play, etc etc. Because while other games sold well, Wii Sports was literally the most ubiquitous game a console has ever had with an attach rate of over EIGHTY PERCENT. You cannot use the opinions of a site like this that is populated by a small subset that is waist deep in sales speculation and follows every release and piece of news constantly as the basis for what the average Joe thinks. I mean shoot, I have seen people who are serious gamers who don't even REMEMBER that Twilight Princess was a launch title, who only think it was Wii Sports and the casual motion craze that pushed the Wii for the first 12 months and even further. The constant bashing of the Wii motion controls as purely a gimmick. And yes, a lot of the blame for this does fall on Wii Sports because it was literally everywhere: on every box, in tons of marketing, in every house that had a Wii. Now as I said, the Wii's reputation stayed afloat for a long while and there are obvious reasons for that: the technology was new and therefore cool for a time, the thing was marketed obsessively for a time, and of course the sheer success of it was somewhat self-perpetuating as it made it must have in many people's eyes. But in the longrun, the Wii brand was completely gutted by the time the Wii U came back, with no respect left to it. Wii Sports and the other Wii games were fantastic sellers for the Wii and did a lot in the 7th gen, but by allowing those to dominate to near exclusion of all other games the image of the Wii, the Wii became *entirely* about that in many people's minds to the exclusion of almost all else.