I know selnor, he would never buy a ps3 over a 360 even if his life depends on it.

Thats all I have to contribute to this thread.

Yes. The newer Falcon models (provided you KNOW you got a Falcon model) are much, much safer.

Go cruise on over to NeoGAF and view their "my Xbox 360 died, and I lived to tell the story" thread - it has thousands of X360 owners that had their X360s RROD. Guess what? Very VERY few are Falcons. Even though that forum is antecdoal evidence, it's the same kind of antecdotal evidence that pointed to the 360 having the problem in the first place.

And from what I've seen, a Falcon 360 will RROD about as much as PS3 will die, or a Wii will die. Is that safe enough for you?

I found the only device that lowers the 360 heat levels and makes RRoD almsot impossibe.

With all joking behind us, i think the newer 360's still get the RRoD but it has a lower chance of happening, plus you have the 3 year warranty, and the PS3 will have a price cut/bundle later this year so i would stick with the 360 for now.  The 360 also has Ninja gaiden, halo wars, fable, banjo and Gears all coming out this year.

I own a 360, but I got it refurbished (guess it had the RRoD), and i've been gaming on it for a minimum of 5 hours a day for 5 months and it has been fine. I have it in a wide open area, with lots of space, and dust freverently. If it went I probably wouldn't mind waiting a couple weeks for the problem to be fixed, or would buy a new arcade and swap out my HD.

In any event I don't know ONE person who owns an Elite that has RRoD and all the peeps I know with Elites had them since day 1. I generally thought they were manufactured better but I guess not.

If I were you though, I might just wait until June to get a new retail one (if you can hold out that long). MS is releasing new mother boards during that cycle that are supposed to be better with the heat and QUIETER. But if you can't wait 3 months or so, just take the plunge and get a new one with the extended warranty. Worst comes to worst, your's will break after June, to which point they will fix it and put the new motherboard in it anyway.

And I'm totally in agreement with you about games. 360 has by far the best library now, followed by Nintendo. But I believe Nintendo does "variety" a little bit better. Whereas 360 has a lot of games that fall in the same vein, but are still good.


I'm expecting the RRoD eventually, but keeping my fingers crossed

Simple way to guarantee if you have a falcon is to check the bar code sticker on the side of the box.  If it lists the power supply as 175w then it's a falcon. The older models, and some early falcons, list 203w on the box.

Would they still be selling non falcon consoles? They had a "supply issue" so surely all of the old Xboxes are out of the supply chain by now! Falcon - slightly less reliable than the Wii and The PS3.

don't sit the sonsole upright, and keep the vent open. mine has been going for about 7 months now. Oh, also, don't play DVD's they only make the console hot as hell is all.

Asides from mostly pointless anecdotal evidence, what facts do you have to back this up?

@ op thread is a complete fallacy the heading is dishonest and I bet the story is questionable. Why not get a Wii or PS3 instead?

I have my console vertical and out in the open. The majority of the 360's heat is produced on the left side, which faces down if you have it horizontal.  I figure better to have that side up and allow cool room air to hit it.