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Forums - Politics Discussion - [Opposed/Silent/Reserved] US Senators on Muslim Ban

irstupid on 30 January 2017
numberwang said:

Remember when Bernie Sanders called open border a right-wing idea by the Koch brothers for cheap labor?

I 'member.

“It would make everybody in America poorer—you’re doing away with the concept of a nation state…

“What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don’t believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country, I think we have to do everything we can to create millions of jobs.


https://berniesanders.com/open-borders-a-gimmick-not-a-solution/

As post above you shows, politicians are the biggest flip floppers in the world. Hillary Clinton topped that list. Basically everythign she ran for in this election there was a video of her saying 100% the opposite like 10 years ago.

kitler53 said:
the silence is deafening.

it's part of why i fear trump so much. outside of mccain and graham republicans are afraid to call out the lies and terrible policy and horrible behavior. i fear they'll willingly little by little hand over all of the power to trump until we are in a full blown dictatorship.

Bah, silence most likely means they agree with the policy. But why would they risk saying so when look at how the media and social media woudl attack them?



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LurkerJ on 30 January 2017
numberwang said:

Remember when Bernie Sanders called open border a right-wing idea by the Koch brothers for cheap labor? I 'member.

“It would make everybody in America poorer—you’re doing away with the concept of a nation state…

“What right-wing people in this country would love is an open-border policy. Bring in all kinds of people, work for $2 or $3 an hour, that would be great for them. I don’t believe in that. I think we have to raise wages in this country, I think we have to do everything we can to create millions of jobs.


https://berniesanders.com/open-borders-a-gimmick-not-a-solution/

 

 

Why is this relevant? what the fuck does that have to do with anything?



numberwang on 30 January 2017

^ Open border leftists and crony capitalists go hand in hand, financed by the Kochs and others.

Chuck "crocodile tears" Schumer justifying immigration limitations from terror countries/cracking down illegal immigration under Obama



TheLegendaryWolf on 31 January 2017
numberwang said:

Most politicians tend to spin on issues like an Iranian centrifuge.

Believe me, the Dems will be in favor of "strong vettings" again once they rediscover how popular that is with the voters.

 

 

This is why I am disgusted by overly partisan politics in America. It seems they would support anything as long as its under their own banner and attack and try to repeal the same plan if its under a different banner. Sooner or later that 2 party system of ours is going to crumble because of it.



numberwang on 31 January 2017

One more thing: The Clintons wanted to build a wall & deport illegals. Some of you may have seen it, some may be surprised - if feels surreal now.

we will do more to speed the deportations of illegal aliens!.. We are a nation of laws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wxMTh_UzHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzviuhVvek

 

How can I embed yt videos here?



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outlawauron on 31 January 2017

I ask again, did you pull this from somewhere, you seem to be picking and choosing who you want to represent.



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etking on 31 January 2017

In Europe, illegal Immigrants kill, rape or attack people on a regular, almost daily basis. Many of them had a good prediction and were assumed to be well integrated. By far not all are terrorists or criminals but there are no methods right now to distinguisch between good or bad. Trump tries to work out such methods and will then release the ban, which is OK and in the interest of the American people. It saves many American lifes.



palou on 31 January 2017
etking said:

In Europe, illegal Immigrants kill, rape or attack people on a regular, almost daily basis. Many of them had a good prediction and were assumed to be well integrated. By far not all are terrorists or criminals but there are no methods right now to distinguisch between good or bad. Trump tries to work out such methods and will then release the ban, which is OK and in the interest of the American people.

In the population that arrived to Europe (over 3 million or so, I think?), it's really not that surprising or even remarkable to have 1 murder or raping per day.



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FIT_Gamer on 31 January 2017
numberwang said:

One more thing: The Clintons wanted to build a wall & deport illegals. Some of you may have seen it, some may be surprised - if feels surreal now.

we will do more to speed the deportations of illegal aliens!.. We are a nation of laws.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4wxMTh_UzHM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rkzviuhVvek

 

How can I embed yt videos here?

Suggesting something and acting on it are not the same. 



Vinther1991 on 31 January 2017
numberwang said:

Most politicians tend to spin on issues like an Iranian centrifuge.

Believe me, the Dems will be in favor of "strong vettings" again once they rediscover how popular that is with the voters.

 

I don't see any double standard here. Trump isn't just banning refugees.