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Egelo said:
Scoobes said:

Have you read the whole of the Qu'ran then? Think a lot of Muslims would disagree with that assessment.

Feel free to prove me wrong.

MAss murder rape slaves sexslaves, Al muhhameds work isis is following.  

Well, you made the claim, but you just spout rhetoric with no backup or context.

I'm atheist so I really don't care either way as I think all organised religion is backward. I just think it's absurd to say one rather violent interpretation of a book is more "true" than another. 



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Egelo said:
Ka-pi96 said:

Because they're trying to generate the most possible newspaper sales/website clicks from their articles and stuff about muslims doing bad things is one of the easiest ways to do that.

Mulsims doing bad things is hard to ignore, they are responcible for near all terorism.

Then there is their cultural enrichemnt of certin place like Sweden France belgium Germany.

2014 german crime rates by nationality, now imagine this for 2016 after a flood of over a million undocumnted "who the fuck knows who they are" types.  

I appreciate your effort in providing these statistics, but please post a source where you got them from, so everyone can verify it.



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HollyGamer said:

So why the media never used other names besides Muslims girls , bias much? In my country who are the biggest Muslim population in the world never used names such Christian girls, Hindus girls, Buddhist girls, atheist girls in the headlines news. 

I understand your point, and, yeah, it does feel this way. News seem to only be about either "Muslim Person does stuff" or "Person does stuff", so its understandable why it looks so strange.
The problem is that in most cases (emphasis most, not all!) this is due to a direct connection, in this case the headscarf being the supposed reason of the supposed attack. Considering the Headscarf is seen as a part of the religion the connection to is pretty clear:
She claims that an attacker tried to push her onto the tracks because she is muslim, which the attacker supposedly figured out due to her wearing a headscarf that is mostly worn among muslims. Its an integral part of the story.

Also seriously, I know how people are feeling with trump, the close election in austria and the general wave of right extremism everywhere, but:

THIS

IS

NOT

HELPING!

For every made up incident like this there are a dozen serious ones that are dismissed because, apparently, this stuff is made up all the time.

Just... stop this. There are already record highs of actual and very real attacks diven by racism and bigotry in the US and the UK, no need to invent more.



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MrCkurab said:
HollyGamer said:

So why the media never used other names besides Muslims girls , bias much? In my country who are the biggest Muslim population in the world never used names such Christian girls, Hindus girls, Buddhist girls, atheist girls in the headlines news. 

I understand your point, and, yeah, it does feel this way. News seem to only be about either "Muslim Person does stuff" or "Person does stuff", so its understandable why it looks so strange.
The problem is that in most cases (emphasis most, not all!) this is due to a direct connection, in this case the headscarf being the supposed reason of the supposed attack. Considering the Headscarf is seen as a part of the religion the connection to is pretty clear:
She claims that an attacker tried to push her onto the tracks because she is muslim, which the attacker supposedly figured out due to her wearing a headscarf that is mostly worn among muslims. Its an integral part of the story.

Also seriously, I know how people are feeling with trump, the close election in austria and the general wave of right extremism everywhere, but:

THIS

IS

NOT

HELPING!

For every made up incident like this there are a dozen serious ones that are dismissed because, apparently, this stuff is made up all the time.

Just... stop this. There are already record highs of actual and very real attacks diven by racism and bigotry in the US and the UK, no need to invent more.

@ bolded

Yep, but certain newspapers like to cherry pick cases like this where this has happened. The fact a UK paper decided to run this story from Vienna when they didn't run the original story and there is so much other stuff going on in the World speaks volumes (the Daily Mail in particular is known for this). 

They ignore the massive volumes of data and cherry pick the cases that fit their narrative and confirm the biases of their readership to generate more revenue. What surprises me is how many people fail to pick up on this rather obvious bias. 



They should give a fine for wasting the police's time.

A shame that we see people lie about things that actually happen to others...really makes people harassed for wearing a veil seem like they're liars too.



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Scoobes said:
Egelo said:

Mulsims doing bad things is hard to ignore, they are responcible for near all terorism.

Then there is their cultural enrichemnt of certin place like Sweden France belgium Germany.

2014 german crime rates by nationality, now imagine this for 2016 after a flood of over a million undocumnted "who the fuck knows who they are" types.  

@ bolded

That's not true, at least not on US (up to 2005, not sure beyond) or European soil:

US

http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

EU

https://thinkprogress.org/less-than-2-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-in-the-e-u-are-religiously-motivated-cec7d8ebedf6#.qk3hvt4ze

Just because it isn't reported, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.  

its a big big World buddy. 

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/sunni-muslim-extremists-committed-70-terrorist-murders-2011

“Sunni extremists accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third consecutive year,” the report says. “More than 5,700 incidents were attributed to Sunni extremists, accounting for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of all fatalities.”



Scoobes said:
Egelo said:

Feel free to prove me wrong.

MAss murder rape slaves sexslaves, Al muhhameds work isis is following.  

Well, you made the claim, but you just spout rhetoric with no backup or context.

I'm atheist so I really don't care either way as I think all organised religion is backward. I just think it's absurd to say one rather violent interpretation of a book is more "true" than another. 

i spout historical facts about mohhamed and facts of atroceties isis commits.  

spin shit all you want.  



Peh said:
Egelo said:

Mulsims doing bad things is hard to ignore, they are responcible for near all terorism.

Then there is their cultural enrichemnt of certin place like Sweden France belgium Germany.

2014 german crime rates by nationality, now imagine this for 2016 after a flood of over a million undocumnted "who the fuck knows who they are" types.  

I appreciate your effort in providing these statistics, but please post a source where you got them from, so everyone can verify it.

https://www.bka.de/DE/AktuelleInformationen/StatistikenLagebilder/PolizeilicheKriminalstatistik/PKS2014/pks2014_node.html

 

 



Egelo said:
Peh said:

I appreciate your effort in providing these statistics, but please post a source where you got them from, so everyone can verify it.

https://www.bka.de/DE/AktuelleInformationen/StatistikenLagebilder/PolizeilicheKriminalstatistik/PKS2

 

 

                               

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Egelo said:
Scoobes said:

@ bolded

That's not true, at least not on US (up to 2005, not sure beyond) or European soil:

US

http://www.globalresearch.ca/non-muslims-carried-out-more-than-90-of-all-terrorist-attacks-in-america/5333619

EU

https://thinkprogress.org/less-than-2-percent-of-terrorist-attacks-in-the-e-u-are-religiously-motivated-cec7d8ebedf6#.qk3hvt4ze

Just because it isn't reported, doesn't mean it doesn't happen.  

its a big big World buddy. 

http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/sunni-muslim-extremists-committed-70-terrorist-murders-2011

“Sunni extremists accounted for the greatest number of terrorist attacks and fatalities for the third consecutive year,” the report says. “More than 5,700 incidents were attributed to Sunni extremists, accounting for nearly 56 percent of all attacks and about 70 percent of all fatalities.”

The cnsnews.com article does not provide a valid source :/



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