Lets just ignore the so far 8+ new full retail IPs sony has made this gen alone already released or upcoming. And since you like lists so much Bloodborne, The last gaurdian, the order, days gone, detroit, Driveclub, Dreams, Horizon, Until Dawn, Gravity Rush, Wild.......

And thats not mentioning all the digital only sony first party games and continuing franchises.

Lol, if The Last Guardian can be considered a new franchise than so can Xenoblade Chronicles X. Until Dawn was made by Supermassive Games, Wild is made by Wild Sheep Studio, Bloodborne by From Software and Detroit by Quantic Dream (and it's more of the same really). Driveclub was just another racing game, they already have that genre covered with Gran Turismo. That's probably why they decided to close down Evolution Studios. The Order 1886 was made by Ready at Dawn and that game is considered a critical and commercial failure. Since then, Ready at Dawn no longer makes games exclusively for PS4. They seem to be stuck making virtual reality titles with a much more modest budget. 

As for Days Gone and Dreams, they are quite forgettable. Days Gone looks too similar to The Last of Us and I forgot Dreams was still in development. Haven't heard anything about that game since it got announced in 2015. 

From the way he worded his OP, it is obvious he mistook the game as being made by Microsoft. When you consider how he talks about "Nintendo games". And what you describe would fall under second party game, not first party.

But if I'm wrong on that, that still doesn't make sense of the Nioh situation I pointed out. ^__-

Obivously this is pointless and you come here telling me to "keep up" when I've been in this thread for a while and you've just joined, lool.

So basically, you never have anything positive to say about anything that comes out of Sony. We didn't know that already.

From the way he worded his OP, it is obvious he mistook the game as being made by Microsoft. When you consider how he talks about "Nintendo games". And what you describe would fall under second party game, not first party.

But if I'm wrong on that, that still doesn't make sense of the Nioh situation I pointed out. ^__-

It could be either one, depending on what he intended.  He never specified that he meant first party studios and his example indicated published.  If he didn't then he made a mistake but I'm not going to assume that.  "First party games" are those where the platform holder also has publishing rights.

As for Nioh, it would be a first party game in regions where Sony has publishing rights, a third party game where they do not.  It's not something I care enough to argue over, though.  If someone want to include it, fine, if they don't, that's also fine.

All I said are facts that Sony didn't develop any of these games. My first post was clearly talking about games made by Sony, not just published. Otherwise Monster Hunter and Yokai Watch can be considered Nintendo franchises since they publish it outside of Japan. 

Most of Sony's studios are busy developing sequels to already established franchises, just like MS or Nintendo. That's not being negative or positive, but making a neutral observation. The way some Sony fans talk about Nintendo and MS only releasing the same games over and over again you'd think Sony makes nothing but new IPs all the time.

But that doesn't make any sense. If we were to consider games as being first party because they are published by the console maker, then what do make of Minecraft, which is published by Sony on their platforms? 

What about it?  I'm not seeing your problem.  Not unless you're looking at an industry term from a completely consumer perspective.

Lol, if The Last Guardian can be considered a new franchise than so can Xenoblade Chronicles X. Until Dawn was made by Supermassive Games, Wild is made by Wild Sheep Studio, Bloodborne by From Software and Detroit by Quantic Dream (and it's more of the same really). Driveclub was just another racing game, they already have that genre covered with Gran Turismo. That's probably why they decided to close down Evolution Studios. The Order 1886 was made by Ready at Dawn and that game is considered a critical and commercial failure. Since then, Ready at Dawn no longer makes games exclusively for PS4. They seem to be stuck making virtual reality titles with a much more modest budget. 

As for Days Gone and Dreams, they are quite forgettable. Days Gone looks too similar to The Last of Us and I forgot Dreams was still in development. Haven't heard anything about that game since it got announced in 2015.