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ironmanDX on 24 January 2017
Intrinsic said:
least you could have done is provide links to the article or video.... would have done so, but this thread lloks more like flamebait than something made for constructive discussion.

 

This thread? Flame bait? No, surely not. He clearly states to keep discussion on topic and not turn this into a console war.

 

 

Anyway... I'm going to wait and see what quality of games come out for the Scorpio before buying it. Probably not worth the money for me right now. I'm yet to buy a 4k TV.



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SonytendoAmiibo on 24 January 2017
Normchacho said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

 

News should be based on facts, not on what is most likely. It's not only Digital Foundry's reputation at risk but also the future of the systems they assume are underpowered. Digital Foundry has admitted they receive information from people who are obviously breaking NDA's. They should be held just as liable as those people who are breaking those NDA's.

The news is based on facts. Digital Foundry clearly states what part of there articles/videos is the information they've recieved, and what part of there content is what they believe to be the case.

 

Bold: Are you serious? Are you really suggesting that it should be illegal to report leaked video game console specs? That's insane...

 

Liable also means "likely to be affected or harmed by something". Your thinking of "legally responsible for something". But breaking an NDA is in fact the latter. Helping someone to break an NDA does have legal ramifications. Basically Digital Foundry is receiving the information illegally.

   

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DonFerrari on 24 January 2017
SonytendoAmiibo said:
DonFerrari said:
The fault would be on the companies designing the products and not managing the information safety. Besides allowing rumors to go for over a year before product release. DF isn't at falt here

 

So your saying the people breaking NDA's are the ones to blame?

They and the companies that allow more than a year of a gossip on the HW after announcing they are going to release it.



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TK-Karma on 24 January 2017
SonytendoAmiibo said:
TK-Karma said:

Hmm, I'd say that if people do choose not to buy the Switch due to the rumoured specs, I'd say that the fault lies more with the consumer. If they are choosing to apply a constraint of "Switch must be X powerful in order for me to buy it", that's their choice. If DF is wrong and it's more powerful than what they detailed in their leak, then the consumer has the option to revise their pre-emptive conclusion.

 

Its not the consumers fault if they were misinformed. Its Digital Foundry's fault for providing false information.

If the consumer refuses to change their conclusion though, once the true specs are (eventually) revealed, then it's a different story, I think. In cases where the truth is never straightforward or may never come to light, I would certainly be inclined to agree with you. However, the truth is coming out one way or another after launch =p comsumers should really make their decision then, if they're on the fence with respect to the console's power.



DonFerrari on 24 January 2017
SonytendoAmiibo said:
Normchacho said:

The news is based on facts. Digital Foundry clearly states what part of there articles/videos is the information they've recieved, and what part of there content is what they believe to be the case.

 

Bold: Are you serious? Are you really suggesting that it should be illegal to report leaked video game console specs? That's insane...

 

Liable also means "likely to be affected or harmed by something". Your thinking of "legally responsible for something". But breaking an NDA is in fact the latter. Helping someone to break an NDA does have legal ramifications. Basically Digital Foundry is receiving the information illegally.

You wish... DF haven't signed any document and isn't obligated to say who provided the info, so there is no case here... just you being angry about two systems being weaker than what you hoped for.

And to break a new for you, news outlet are supposed to be hitting hard whoever they report on, the ones supposed to pamper is marketing department.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

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SonytendoAmiibo on 24 January 2017
DonFerrari said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

 

Liable also means "likely to be affected or harmed by something". Your thinking of "legally responsible for something". But breaking an NDA is in fact the latter. Helping someone to break an NDA does have legal ramifications. Basically Digital Foundry is receiving the information illegally.

You wish... DF haven't signed any document and isn't obligated to say who provided the info, so there is no case here... just you being angry about two systems being weaker than what you hoped for.

And to break a new for you, news outlet are supposed to be hitting hard whoever they report on, the ones supposed to pamper is marketing department.

 

Yes, Digital Foundry didn't sign a NDA with anyone but they are helping someone else break a legally binding contract. Guilty by association.

   

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Normchacho on 24 January 2017
SonytendoAmiibo said:
Normchacho said:

The news is based on facts. Digital Foundry clearly states what part of there articles/videos is the information they've recieved, and what part of there content is what they believe to be the case.

 

Bold: Are you serious? Are you really suggesting that it should be illegal to report leaked video game console specs? That's insane...

 

Liable also means "likely to be affected or harmed by something". Your thinking of "legally responsible for something". But breaking an NDA is in fact the latter. Helping someone to break an NDA does have legal ramifications. Basically Digital Foundry is receiving the information illegally.

That is absolutely not how libel laws work.

Also, what the hell? Digital Foundry is always very clear about what they're reporting and how they come up with there assumptions. What is your problem with them?



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Intrinsic on 24 January 2017
SonytendoAmiibo said:
Arminillo said:
digital foundry didnt make the specs, so i dont see why people would be mad at them.

 

But they are making a lot of assumptions with their information. They do not have clear proof the Scorpio will not do 4K native. This is unsubstantiated information that could potentially damage the Scorpio.

No, they are not making assumptions. And you are making this all out to be a lot more than it actually is.

What DF is doing is taking the information leaked and provided by MS and making an educated guesstimate of what the scorpio will do. The are giving possibilities and citing the reasons and evidence backing what they are saying all from the very documents MS rovided to the developers. 

The very same way they did for the PS4pro using leaked docs and all their assessments turned out to be on point.

As it stands, what they have done is paint a worst case scenario and even at that its stilll pretty good. This is actaully much better for the scorpio than you think because it gives MS a very low bar to scale to impress.



Intrinsic on 24 January 2017
ironmanDX said:
Intrinsic said:
least you could have done is provide links to the article or video.... would have done so, but this thread lloks more like flamebait than something made for constructive discussion.

 

This thread? Flame bait? No, surely not. He clearly states to keep discussion on topic and not turn this into a console war.

 

 

Anyway... I'm going to wait and see what quality of games come out for the Scorpio before buying it. Probably not worth the money for me right now. I'm yet to buy a 4k TV.

You should have seen what this thread was by the time I made that post. there was a reason it was locked at some point you know?



SonytendoAmiibo on 24 January 2017
Normchacho said:
SonytendoAmiibo said:

 

Liable also means "likely to be affected or harmed by something". Your thinking of "legally responsible for something". But breaking an NDA is in fact the latter. Helping someone to break an NDA does have legal ramifications. Basically Digital Foundry is receiving the information illegally.

That is absolutely not how libel laws work.

Also, what the hell? Digital Foundry is always very clear about what they're reporting and how they come up with there assumptions. What is your problem with them?

 

The problem is they shouldn't be making any assumptions. With there stolen corporate secrets.

   

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