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| Snoopy said: The switch will fail because it has no 3rd party support. End of story and move on. |
Epic blockbuster western AAA titles don't = 3rd party support.
Let them keep those high budget over-hyped games, most are mediocre from my experience anyway.
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| Nem said: I hate to burst it to you, but the switch is a home console. Nintendo themselves said so in the Fire emblem direct where they said the switch fire emblem marks the return of the series to home consoles.
I'm pretty sure a sucessor to the 3DS will come. |
I wouldn't count on it. The way Nintendo talked these last few years, makes me believe that they want to focus all the efforts in a single platform to combine catalogue. But the only way to know that for sure is waiting.
| Nem said: I hate to burst it to you, but the switch is a home console. Nintendo themselves said so in the Fire emblem direct where they said the switch fire emblem marks the return of the series to home consoles.
I'm pretty sure a sucessor to the 3DS will come. |
I think a Switch compatible true portable will come and that will be the device that actually sells in significant numbers. This hybrid console is awful as both a home console and a portable however its even worse as a home console than it is a portable.
bonzobanana said:
I certainly have, I feel the price, clamshell design and long battery life were 3 major attributes of the DS success as a portable. I don't believe its the be-all, end-all but I think it definitely is advantageious for a portable making it easy to protect and more compact to fit into a pocket easily. Certainly the Switch doesn't have any of those attributes at all and as a portable will suffer because of it. However that said the landscape has changed and people now have more versatile mobile phones and tablets anyway even children so its a harder sell to produce a dedicated portable gaming device even if you do get the format and pricing right. The clamshell format was especially good for children who treat devices roughly with little respect or care. No doubt in future months we will most likely debate why the Switch has failed and we will frankly be spoilt for choice with regard reasons for its low sales; console itself, game line-up, prices, performance level, market having moved away from dedicated portable game consoles etc. |
Out of the four DS's I (and my kids) had, the number of broken hinges is four. One hinge per console. 2DS is much more durable device, so was GBA and so was GB. The thing with the DS is, that it was targeted for more mature audience than GBA, PSP or 3DS. The clamshell is good design for portability, but bad for kids who treat devices roughly with little respect or care.
Problem with the handheld market is, that it's moved away from games people wanted to buy.
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Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.
bonzobanana said:
I think a Switch compatible true portable will come and that will be the device that actually sells in significant numbers. This hybrid console is awful as both a home console and a portable however its even worse as a home console than it is a portable. |
I think we'll have a portable only "NX" device in the future. That's what Iwata was obviously planning with different form factors. The worst thing as a home console in Switch is it's colour. The device is just godawful. The only worse colours for it I could imagine would be called "puke" or "shit".
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Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.
| Nem said: I hate to burst it to you, but the switch is a home console. Nintendo themselves said so in the Fire emblem direct where they said the switch fire emblem marks the return of the series to home consoles.
I'm pretty sure a sucessor to the 3DS will come. |
do you honestly believe Nintendo can support a console that is likely 2-3 times as powerful as Wii U alongside a traditional handheld that is somewhere in the ballpark of Vita level hardware?
That goes against everything they have been doing the last few years with merging and restructuring their divisions.
What would be the benefit of that anyway?
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bdbdbd said:
Out of the four DS's I (and my kids) had, the number of broken hinges is four. One hinge per console. 2DS is much more durable device, so was GBA and so was GB. The thing with the DS is, that it was targeted for more mature audience than GBA, PSP or 3DS. The clamshell is good design for portability, but bad for kids who treat devices roughly with little respect or care. Problem with the handheld market is, that it's moved away from games people wanted to buy. |
Never had that problem with hinges but seems like a clear issue there. Did scratch up my GBA screen quite badly by not being careful. 2DS is clearly a device where portability took a bad seat with its larger format. Ok for bags and backpacks but not pockets. GB was brilliantly well made but not a touch screen so could be made stronger more easily.
Mobile gaming has never been bigger and more popular but Nintendo have been outpriced by IOS and Android and I'm not sure there is even a market for a device which provides more intense ambitious games in a portable format. For a £60 switch cartridge you can practically have a huge library of decent android paid for games plus a ton more of great free games. It's hard to compete with that.
| d21lewis said: My biggest worry is that Android tablets are so powerful nowadays. Could someone swoop in and basically make the same thing except with the Google Play Store? Because that would kill the Switch. Hell, make a controller mod for my Moto Z Force. *I know some devices can use a controller. I'm taking about using one without any extra effort on the consumers part* |
Android tablets with these capabilities probably cost a lot more than $300. More importantly, Anroid lacks the content people go to consoles for.
Mobile devices have certainly become a significant gaming platform and eaten into the userbase of portable consoles, but its still very different.
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bonzobanana said:
Never had that problem with hinges but seems like a clear issue there. Did scratch up my GBA screen quite badly by not being careful. 2DS is clearly a device where portability took a bad seat with its larger format. Ok for bags and backpacks but not pockets. GB was brilliantly well made but not a touch screen so could be made stronger more easily. Mobile gaming has never been bigger and more popular but Nintendo have been outpriced by IOS and Android and I'm not sure there is even a market for a device which provides more intense ambitious games in a portable format. For a £60 switch cartridge you can practically have a huge library of decent android paid for games plus a ton more of great free games. It's hard to compete with that. |
But the problem in the mobile games market is bad games. Because of the free games it's hard to compete against, the microtransaction model is taken to an extreme where the model is breaking the games. Besides, any freemium game there is, is going to quickly cost you way more than any of the industry AAA games bought day 1.
It is the PS4/X1 model that's actually on the line of tablets and smarthones.
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Nintendo games sell only on Nintendo system.
Switch will probably end up like Vita with à little more sales thanks to nintendo first party games, so somewhere between 15 and 25M
Unless they cut thé price to 250 euros before thé end of thé year, there WE could really take about potential décent sales of 25-35M
That was thé realistic pronostic
Predictions for end of 2014 HW sales:
PS4: 17m XB1: 10m WiiU: 10m Vita: 10m
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