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outlawauron on 22 January 2017

Steam and iOS have proven this to not be true.

Consoles have a long way to go before reaching that status.



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okr on 22 January 2017

Sorry Veknoid, but I disagree. I am too lazy to elaborate.



naruball on 22 January 2017
Veknoid_Outcast said:
bonzobanana said:
When you get a port on PS4 or Xbox one it can often be hugely upgraded, higher res, improved textures, higher or more consistent frame rate, often they chuck in more content, original DLC etc. It gets to be a very appealing package and the price is often quite competitive and if not drops rapidly anyway.

The wii u got a lot of ports which were actually inferior to ps3 and 360 they were often awful versions with many problems and compared to ps4 and xbone versions were utterly pathetic. Hence often these versions sold in tiny numbers and were a huge indicator of how poor the wii u console was.

[snip]

Great point. Who really wanted to play an old military shooter like Call of Duty Ghosts or a Gearbox game like Colonial Marines on WiiU? People were interested in evergreen IPs like Mario Kart and new experiences built from the ground up on WiiU like Splatoon. It's not like AAA games are the only ones that count, right? Call of Duty and Borderands didn't help Vita, that's for sure. Nintendo should really try to appeal to the folks whose gaming needs aren't being met by PS4 and XOne. It shouldn't try to be the light beer of AAA gaming.

Yes they did. The month that Bordelands came out the vita pulled some decent numbers (like 40k) and there were reports that bundles were sold out in many stores (not sure if all). COD managed to sell over 1m. Who knows how much it helped over the course of several months. I read several comments from people saying that they got a vita for COD. Whether or not their claims can be trusted is a different case.



m_csquare on 26 January 2017
Veknoid_Outcast said:
bonzobanana said:
When you get a port on PS4 or Xbox one it can often be hugely upgraded, higher res, improved textures, higher or more consistent frame rate, often they chuck in more content, original DLC etc. It gets to be a very appealing package and the price is often quite competitive and if not drops rapidly anyway.

The wii u got a lot of ports which were actually inferior to ps3 and 360 they were often awful versions with many problems and compared to ps4 and xbone versions were utterly pathetic. Hence often these versions sold in tiny numbers and were a huge indicator of how poor the wii u console was.

[snip]

Great point. Who really wanted to play an old military shooter like Call of Duty Ghosts or a Gearbox game like Colonial Marines on WiiU? People were interested in evergreen IPs like Mario Kart and new experiences built from the ground up on WiiU like Splatoon. It's not like AAA games are the only ones that count, right? Call of Duty and Borderands didn't help Vita, that's for sure. Nintendo should really try to appeal to the folks whose gaming needs aren't being met by PS4 and XOne. It shouldn't try to be the light beer of AAA gaming.

Errr they did help vita sales. A million sales for cod and 600k for bl2. BL2 couldv done a lot more if it's actually a decent port. The game was almost unplayable on vita with those sub10fps drops. I was very tempted to buy a vita because of bl2 port, until i heard that fps problem



MTZehvor on 26 January 2017

There's a difference between claiming that fewer games is a good thing, and claiming that it's essentially a non issue. I don't think you'll find anyone celebrating the fact that Switch doesn't have many games.

Anyway, while I agree that Switch not having an amazing lineup is disappointing, Titanfall 2 or Borderlands 3 likely wouldn't have helped the console much, if at all. Nintendo has done an excellent job of making its consoles the least appealing place possible for online shooter based gameplay. Losing out on Mass Effect (or Yooka Laylee, if that falls through) is a much bigger blow, however.



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m_csquare on 27 January 2017
MTZehvor said:
There's a difference between claiming that fewer games is a good thing, and claiming that it's essentially a non issue. I don't think you'll find anyone celebrating the fact that Switch doesn't have many games.

Anyway, while I agree that Switch not having an amazing lineup is disappointing, Titanfall 2 or Borderlands 3 likely wouldn't have helped the console much, if at all. Nintendo has done an excellent job of making its consoles the least appealing place possible for online shooter based gameplay. Losing out on Mass Effect (or Yooka Laylee, if that falls through) is a much bigger blow, however.

Nintendo latest successful ip is actually an online shooter, but ok..



zorg1000 on 27 January 2017
Hiku said:
zorg1000 said:
I will counter that with it doesn't matter how many games a console has if those games don't appeal to the audience that is interested in that device.

But every game has someone who is interested in it. Variety is important.

most certainly, i didnt say otherwise.

looking at the rest of my post you will see that i talk about how certain devices/brands have certain audiences and if a developer/publisher wants to make money off of these audiences than they need to make games that appeal to said audience.

a game that appeals to the Playstation audience may not appeal to the Xbox audience and a game that appeals to the Nintendo audience may not appeal to the Playstation audience, etc.

its better to not get Titanfall or Battlefield at all than have them release, flop and have EA say there is no market for them and end all further support. it would be a much better idea for them to release a game with a higher chance of success on the platform like PvZ: Garden Warfare and add support from there.



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oniyide on 27 January 2017
Ck1x said:
Fewer games does suck but overall quality and magnitude of the game would mean much more! Instead of people crying about games that had little to no impact, I would much rather Nintendo focus on getting something like Overwatch or mend fences with Rockstar somehow to get their projects on the Switch.

The 3ds didn't have any western support pretty much and it faired pretty okay and the Switch is just so much more of a compelling device than that was. It's also the most polished and extremely well made system from Nintendo than any before.

kinda hard to compare a handheld to a home console. Especially in the west, different expectations al together. western 3rd parties have never really supported portables and if they did they were like C-B products



oniyide on 27 January 2017
Veknoid_Outcast said:
bonzobanana said:
When you get a port on PS4 or Xbox one it can often be hugely upgraded, higher res, improved textures, higher or more consistent frame rate, often they chuck in more content, original DLC etc. It gets to be a very appealing package and the price is often quite competitive and if not drops rapidly anyway.

The wii u got a lot of ports which were actually inferior to ps3 and 360 they were often awful versions with many problems and compared to ps4 and xbone versions were utterly pathetic. Hence often these versions sold in tiny numbers and were a huge indicator of how poor the wii u console was.

[snip]

Great point. Who really wanted to play an old military shooter like Call of Duty Ghosts or a Gearbox game like Colonial Marines on WiiU? People were interested in evergreen IPs like Mario Kart and new experiences built from the ground up on WiiU like Splatoon. It's not like AAA games are the only ones that count, right? Call of Duty and Borderands didn't help Vita, that's for sure. Nintendo should really try to appeal to the folks whose gaming needs aren't being met by PS4 and XOne. It shouldn't try to be the light beer of AAA gaming.

those were terrible terrible versions of those games. ANd some how COD did actually sell ok and boost the vita for a bit



Veknoid_Outcast on 27 January 2017
oniyide said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

Great point. Who really wanted to play an old military shooter like Call of Duty Ghosts or a Gearbox game like Colonial Marines on WiiU? People were interested in evergreen IPs like Mario Kart and new experiences built from the ground up on WiiU like Splatoon. It's not like AAA games are the only ones that count, right? Call of Duty and Borderands didn't help Vita, that's for sure. Nintendo should really try to appeal to the folks whose gaming needs aren't being met by PS4 and XOne. It shouldn't try to be the light beer of AAA gaming.

those were terrible terrible versions of those games. ANd some how COD did actually sell ok and boost the vita for a bit

But Vita is still sitting at 15 million. I'm saying AAA games aren't the only ones that count. Vita got games like Uncharted, Call of Duty, Killzone, Assassin's Creed, and Borderlands yet trailed behind a system with none of the above.