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What are you ranting about?

The console price? 72 18.05%
 
the peripherals price? 61 15.29%
 
not being a truly home console? 23 5.76%
 
not being a truly handheld console? 3 0.75%
 
the battery life? 14 3.51%
 
the graphic department? 24 6.02%
 
nintendo not following the 2 others path? 6 1.50%
 
not enough games? 73 18.30%
 
all of the above? 96 24.06%
 
just because? 27 6.77%
 
Total:399
sidious164 on 15 January 2017

outdated hardware specs by 2017 standards
overpriced
720p gamepad
32gb of storage space i believe? seriously?
paid online
expensive accessories

its 2017. u couldn't release a system at least on par with the one spec wise? im sure u would make a profit. no wonder why the n64 was the last nintendo system i purchased. nintendo constantly disappoints me with underpowered hardware and shit gimmicks.



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KLAMarine on 15 January 2017

Too expensive. Don't care for the peripherals, just need a bundle.



Spade on 15 January 2017

Paid online, overpriced accessories, meh launch lineup. Buying it for Mario though!!



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Ultrashroomz on 15 January 2017

The pro controller is $70, which is way too much for an already borderline priced console, and the battery is pretty meh.

Still planning to get it day one cause I really wanna play Zelda.



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onionberry on 15 January 2017
sidious164 said:
outdated hardware specs by 2017 standards
overpriced
720p gamepad
32gb of storage space i believe? seriously?
paid online
expensive accessories

its 2017. u couldn't release a system at least on par with the one spec wise? im sure u would make a profit. no wonder why the n64 was the last nintendo system i purchased. nintendo constantly disappoints me with underpowered hardware and shit gimmicks.

how much would cost a portable tablet with the power of the xbox one? think about that just for a second.



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Knitemare on 15 January 2017
BeatdownBrigade said:
Number of issues. Some pertaining to the console itself, others to just Nintendo business practices in general
I begin with the cost of the system being pretty expensive, especially considering the overall power of the product as well as the cost of accessories. I feel you cannot look at cost in a vacuum but as it pertains to competition. Its not that $300 is insane for a new console, but usually when new generations happen you are also competing with other consoles that are expensive with immature software offerings. Here they are releasing when a competitor like Sony I can get their console for $270 and a game in which their console offers more power, more features, and a robust library.

Another is the cost of entry. Some may be fine with the base model, but when I look at the cost it would be for me to have the experience I want I look at $300 for the system + $60 for whatever game I want to play + $70 for the pro controller I prefer + $40 for an SD card since they gave no storage. That's $470 pre-tax so over $500 after tax to just have 1 game with a pro controller and what I'd consider reasonable amount of storage. This does not include possibility of battery packs of the $30 charging grip.

Speaking of the charging grip that goes to another area of contention. They actually went out of their way to make a controller grip model to include in the system that does not charge. They don't even offer this non-charging grip to be purchases separately. So if you want a charging model you gotta pay $30 to get it, and if you buy another pair of $80 joycons you must pay that full price instead of being offered a cheaper non-charging version they had made. Seems pretty anti-consumer to on purpose design another model solely to double-dip on your consumers.

Pretty claim all the many experiences you get with it, which is true, but there are also many barriers of entry I see. If you play a fighting game or platformer you know you want a true D-pad. Many reviews have already been critical of the joycons function of this. So you gotta pay $70 for a pro-controller for that. If you want to play a driving game or the gamecube VC games when they come out you want an analog trigger but the joycons are digital so again you will have to pay $70 for a pro controller. The ARMS game they showcased if you want to play local co-op for you have to pay $80 for another set of joycons that are overpriced with many features completely unnecessary for a game like ARMS.

I'm not gonna go deeply into the launch lineup and Nintendo's overall subpar delivery of games the past 5-6 years and its lack of third-party support in general thats been debated ad nauseam, but I will say its also just disappointing that its 2017 and we are still getting a game like Zelda in only 900p and 30 fps when even docked. I mean come on now if you accept that as a consumer I almost feel bad for you. You deserve more, the gaming community deserves more.

Lastly, the fact voice chat is gonna be handled separately through a smart device. Its already insane that the dock itself has no ethernet port so you gotta pay $30 for an adapter if you want to hardwire internet, but the fact the device has no native voice chat in 2017 blows my mind. I remember talking to friends on the original Xbox in 2002. Its 15 years later and Nintendo still cannot offer this and consumers defend it!?

I literally could go on and write a book. Which makes me sad because I grew up on Nintendo. NES, SNES, N64, and Gamecube. I feel a lot of people share my story. Just bums me out to no end that this company has completely lost its way and the fact the lengths people go to defend it just makes me more sad.

Well, you got it right sir. And this kind of issues is exactly why I never buy apple stuff. And yes, there are not apple fans, just apple zealots, who would argue why its so pricey and why apple is the best there is and listen to no reason.



                          

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curl-6 on 15 January 2017

Here in Australia, if I want to buy a Switch, the standard edition of Zelda, and a pro controller, that will cost me $660.

For that price, I could buy a PS4 and an Xbox One and a game for each.



pokoko on 15 January 2017

The total price of ownership.

If I get a Switch, it will be as a secondary system, so I'm not that concerned about things like multi-platform releases. I'm also fully anticipating it eventually building up a good library of the 3DS RPG type games I'm looking for. I don't care much about most of Nintendo's home console type games, especially platformers.

Basically, what I want is something like 3DS third-party content but on a home console. The handheld portion means very little to me. I'd definitely want a Pro controller, though, which makes the price jump.

As it stands, it's just way too steep for me for something that I wouldn't play all that often. I really don't see myself getting one until A) the library builds up, and B) the price drops by a significant amount, possibly over Black Friday, which is how I got my Vita.

Otherwise, I'm pleased that games only seen on handhelds previously might make their way to a larger screen. I've tried handhelds and they are not for me.



onionberry on 15 January 2017
Knitemare said:
onionberry said:
I have to wait 48 days to play

Lol girl. Something inside me told me already that your only rant would be the waiting ;)

well honestly I don't have other problem with the system, cheaper would be cool but $300 is fair enough for a powerful handheld. Paid online? like MS and Sony, we don't even know the price and details or how bad or good could be. I like the launch lineup for this year... so yeah the wait. Expensive accessories would be a problem but for me the switch is a handheld so I don't need any of that.



Pemalite on 15 January 2017
onionberry said:

how much would cost a portable tablet with the power of the xbox one? think about that just for a second.

Tegra Volta. Built at 16nm Finfet. - This year.
Nintendo should have been able to get such a chip earlier than the rest of the market if they deal and work with nVidia. (The chip has likely already taped out.)

With that said, if anyone assumes an Xbox One in the palm of your hand with the current chips on the market, then their assumption is without merit, that was never going to happen.
But there are chips which are "close enough". Which would have been fine.




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