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potato_hamster said:
irstupid said:

Your missing switches main draw though. It's for all purposes a handheld. 

One can't bring their PS4 on the plane, train or automobile. They can't play it at lunch during work, or at school recess/lunch/study hall. They don't have to unhook their whole system and cords and lug it over to grandmas or a friends house for the day. And then have to hook it all back up again when they get home. 

That can't be the main draw if I bring it on my morning commute and I need to recharge it before lunchtime is over.

How long is your commute and lunch break, that 3 hours is not long enough? Do you not have a place you can charge it while at work either?



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Dulfite said:
potato_hamster said:

The WIi U didn't appeal to anybody. Deny it all you want, prospective buyers were looking at the WIi U vs the PS4 and Xbox One, and it was a no brainer. You can say all you want that people that are going to buy Nintendo devices aren't going to be lured away by graphics, but that's Nintendo's problem isn't it? People are getting lured away by graphics, and third party games, and rock solid online play. The people that don't care about that more than they care about playing Nintendo games? Those numbers are clearly and obviously dwindling.

From everything we've seen, the Switch is barely a step up from the Wii U graphically. Besides that, what's the main difference? That they can take their Switch outside if they want? That's a limited appeal. Other than that, the sides of the Wii U tablet now detatch, and you can now only use the TV screen or the tablet screen. If they didn't find the Wii U appealing, why are they suddenly going to buy the Switch? It's arguably a harder sell than the Wii U was at launch. It's more expensive. It's accessories are far more expensive. They now have to pay to play online. All for what? The ability to take the game out on road with you if you choose to do so. That's a very hard sell.

False. The wii saw a MASSIVE increase in casual fans, but the Wii U is performing similiarly to the gamecube before it, so Nintendo's super loyal base is still in the 10-20 mil range, for the most part. Which means the Switch will sell 10-20 mil units minimum, not including non typical Nintendo fans. The Wii U was unappealing because the 2nd screen often was completely useless and, therefore, people could clearly see how the device was limiting itself (diverting power to two screens instead of just one). Also, the gamecube could only be moved a certain distance away from the Wii U, and the battery was horrible in that mode, whereas the switch is much better in bother of these areas. And we don't know the benefit of online pay yet, in terms of performance. All I can say is I've been through Call of Duty World at War online on the wii and that was horrible, so if paid online gets us better connection and prevents game servers from shutting down so early like Devil's third, I'm happy with that as long as it isn't super expensive. 

I used to own a 360 and absolutely LOVED the online in that system. It was clear that PAYING for that was worth it because they did such a good job. Here is hoping Nintendo does the same thing with our money that Microsoft has been doing.

Not just the road, but an airplane, on a boat, on a train, in a taxi cab, on a school bus, shuttle bus, while your baby sitting your neice, and on and on. This is going to be amazingly convenient compared to massive boxy hd twins.

How do you know that the switch battery will be better than the Wii U? Nintendo claimed the Wii U gamepad would last 3-5 hours. In practice it wasn't that good with decent brightness settings. Now the switch is supposed to last 2.5-6 hours? With a larger screen, and doing all of the console's processing, and handling inputs from multiple controllers Sounds like it could actually be worse than the Wii U.

There's a huge assumption that Nintendo's online network is going to get substantially better. Almost everything about the switch kinda screams "money grab" from Nintendo going after their loyal 10-15 million fan base. They're gouging them on the price of the console. They're gouging them on the price of accessories. They're gouging them on the price of games. What makes you think they're not gouging them on Network play because they know their fanbase is willing to pay it?

Massively convenient for who? What makes you believe people want to be able to take their consoles on the go like that? I don't wish I could just pop my PS4  out of its dock to take over to my friends house, because it would be substantially less powerful in order to  do that, and hooking it up to his TV takes less than 2 minutes. Furthermore, if you want to play the switch on your friend's TV instead of that tiny tablet screen, it's just as much work to get your switch up and running as it is to hook up any other console.



OK read the rest of the posts.

Half the shit people said they are buying most won't (ie the addons).

Lan port? really? What kind of crappy Wifi do you run at home? my ps4 has been connected over wifi and no drama.

Should it have a lan port? sure, is it the end of the world if it doesn't? no



 

 

Cobretti2 said:
Dr.Vita said:
Rip-off.

So was the vita memory card but i did not see you complaining.

Gotta milk them early adopters lol.

the vita memory card thing still sucks and this is coming from a guy who stills buy games for the thing



Cobretti2 said:
OK read the rest of the posts.

Half the shit people said they are buying most won't (ie the addons).

Lan port? really? What kind of crappy Wifi do you run at home? my ps4 has been connected over wifi and no drama.

Should it have a lan port? sure, is it the end of the world if it doesn't? no

Wifi for most people is many times lower than a direct land line connection. That kind of latency matters to some people.



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potato_hamster said:
Dulfite said:

False. The wii saw a MASSIVE increase in casual fans, but the Wii U is performing similiarly to the gamecube before it, so Nintendo's super loyal base is still in the 10-20 mil range, for the most part. Which means the Switch will sell 10-20 mil units minimum, not including non typical Nintendo fans. The Wii U was unappealing because the 2nd screen often was completely useless and, therefore, people could clearly see how the device was limiting itself (diverting power to two screens instead of just one). Also, the gamecube could only be moved a certain distance away from the Wii U, and the battery was horrible in that mode, whereas the switch is much better in bother of these areas. And we don't know the benefit of online pay yet, in terms of performance. All I can say is I've been through Call of Duty World at War online on the wii and that was horrible, so if paid online gets us better connection and prevents game servers from shutting down so early like Devil's third, I'm happy with that as long as it isn't super expensive. 

I used to own a 360 and absolutely LOVED the online in that system. It was clear that PAYING for that was worth it because they did such a good job. Here is hoping Nintendo does the same thing with our money that Microsoft has been doing.

Not just the road, but an airplane, on a boat, on a train, in a taxi cab, on a school bus, shuttle bus, while your baby sitting your neice, and on and on. This is going to be amazingly convenient compared to massive boxy hd twins.

How do you know that the switch battery will be better than the Wii U? Nintendo claimed the Wii U gamepad would last 3-5 hours. In practice it wasn't that good with decent brightness settings. Now the switch is supposed to last 2.5-6 hours? With a larger screen, and doing all of the console's processing, and handling inputs from multiple controllers Sounds like it could actually be worse than the Wii U.

There's a huge assumption that Nintendo's online network is going to get substantially better. Almost everything about the switch kinda screams "money grab" from Nintendo going after their loyal 10-15 million fan base. They're gouging them on the price of the console. They're gouging them on the price of accessories. They're gouging them on the price of games. What makes you think they're not gouging them on Network play because they know their fanbase is willing to pay it?

Massively convenient for who? What makes you believe people want to be able to take their consoles on the go like that? I don't wish I could just pop my PS4  out of its dock to take over to my friends house, because it would be substantially less powerful in order to  do that, and hooking it up to his TV takes less than 2 minutes. Furthermore, if you want to play the switch on your friend's TV instead of that tiny tablet screen, it's just as much work to get your switch up and running as it is to hook up any other console.

Nintendo anticipated people using the Wii U mainly for maps and stuff, not off screen play 100% of the time. Their estimates with the Switch are far more reliable, therefore, due to people ONLY using it for off screen play.

The switch joy cons are amazingly small for what they do, so I'm not unhappy about their price. But yes, the rest of their stuff is ridiculously expensive and I don't know why.

Japan alone makes the convenience of this device worth it. That country has massive amounts of people that love to play games on the go. Also, if I'm taking my switch over to my friends house, it may not be in order to put it on the tv. Maybe he has a switch too and we want to do multiplayer? Maybe I want something to do while we are watching a movie, or while he is playing another game? Also, let's say I am going over to hook it up to the tv, the sheer size and weight of the switch objects makes it far more convenient than some massive clunky and heavy ps4 or xbone.



Dulfite said:
potato_hamster said:

How do you know that the switch battery will be better than the Wii U? Nintendo claimed the Wii U gamepad would last 3-5 hours. In practice it wasn't that good with decent brightness settings. Now the switch is supposed to last 2.5-6 hours? With a larger screen, and doing all of the console's processing, and handling inputs from multiple controllers Sounds like it could actually be worse than the Wii U.

There's a huge assumption that Nintendo's online network is going to get substantially better. Almost everything about the switch kinda screams "money grab" from Nintendo going after their loyal 10-15 million fan base. They're gouging them on the price of the console. They're gouging them on the price of accessories. They're gouging them on the price of games. What makes you think they're not gouging them on Network play because they know their fanbase is willing to pay it?

Massively convenient for who? What makes you believe people want to be able to take their consoles on the go like that? I don't wish I could just pop my PS4  out of its dock to take over to my friends house, because it would be substantially less powerful in order to  do that, and hooking it up to his TV takes less than 2 minutes. Furthermore, if you want to play the switch on your friend's TV instead of that tiny tablet screen, it's just as much work to get your switch up and running as it is to hook up any other console.

Nintendo anticipated people using the Wii U mainly for maps and stuff, not off screen play 100% of the time. Their estimates with the Switch are far more reliable, therefore, due to people ONLY using it for off screen play.

The switch joy cons are amazingly small for what they do, so I'm not unhappy about their price. But yes, the rest of their stuff is ridiculously expensive and I don't know why.

Japan alone makes the convenience of this device worth it. That country has massive amounts of people that love to play games on the go. Also, if I'm taking my switch over to my friends house, it may not be in order to put it on the tv. Maybe he has a switch too and we want to do multiplayer? Maybe I want something to do while we are watching a movie, or while he is playing another game? Also, let's say I am going over to hook it up to the tv, the sheer size and weight of the switch objects makes it far more convenient than some massive clunky and heavy ps4 or xbone.

Then why did they spend so much time advertising and demonstrating the ability to play the wii u while something completely different is being shown on the TV its connected to? Sure not every game supported this feature, but many Nintendo published games did. Of all the scenarios you describe at your friends house as reasons to buy a switch you can also do with a Wii U with marginally longer set up time. In fact, bringing over a controller to use on your friends Wii U is definitely easier than bringing over another switch.

Also hilarious you find the Joycons worth the price. I personally think spending $110 to get a joycon pair and the charge base for them is totally unacceptable but whatever. Then again, you're willing to spend over $300 for what amounts to an extra minute or two of set up time vs bringing your Wii U over to a friends house, so there's that.



I neither get why is so expensive.



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oniyide said:
Cobretti2 said:

So was the vita memory card but i did not see you complaining.

Gotta milk them early adopters lol.

the vita memory card thing still sucks and this is coming from a guy who stills buy games for the thing

it does, but it is what it is. If you like the games that little detail doesn't matter too much, hence why i neve rhad a problem with my VITA. 



 

 

I saw it last night, and I told myselft why is so expensive? why not sell the switch with a dock and without for less? I also made some calculation(In MX Pesos) and damn... I could buy a PS4 Pro at the same price of a Switch and Zelda too expensive. I will still buy it at launch but I believe the price is going to hurt the sales after launch.