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potato_hamster on 15 January 2017
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Dulfite said:
potato_hamster said:

The WIi U didn't appeal to anybody. Deny it all you want, prospective buyers were looking at the WIi U vs the PS4 and Xbox One, and it was a no brainer. You can say all you want that people that are going to buy Nintendo devices aren't going to be lured away by graphics, but that's Nintendo's problem isn't it? People are getting lured away by graphics, and third party games, and rock solid online play. The people that don't care about that more than they care about playing Nintendo games? Those numbers are clearly and obviously dwindling.

From everything we've seen, the Switch is barely a step up from the Wii U graphically. Besides that, what's the main difference? That they can take their Switch outside if they want? That's a limited appeal. Other than that, the sides of the Wii U tablet now detatch, and you can now only use the TV screen or the tablet screen. If they didn't find the Wii U appealing, why are they suddenly going to buy the Switch? It's arguably a harder sell than the Wii U was at launch. It's more expensive. It's accessories are far more expensive. They now have to pay to play online. All for what? The ability to take the game out on road with you if you choose to do so. That's a very hard sell.

False. The wii saw a MASSIVE increase in casual fans, but the Wii U is performing similiarly to the gamecube before it, so Nintendo's super loyal base is still in the 10-20 mil range, for the most part. Which means the Switch will sell 10-20 mil units minimum, not including non typical Nintendo fans. The Wii U was unappealing because the 2nd screen often was completely useless and, therefore, people could clearly see how the device was limiting itself (diverting power to two screens instead of just one). Also, the gamecube could only be moved a certain distance away from the Wii U, and the battery was horrible in that mode, whereas the switch is much better in bother of these areas. And we don't know the benefit of online pay yet, in terms of performance. All I can say is I've been through Call of Duty World at War online on the wii and that was horrible, so if paid online gets us better connection and prevents game servers from shutting down so early like Devil's third, I'm happy with that as long as it isn't super expensive. 

I used to own a 360 and absolutely LOVED the online in that system. It was clear that PAYING for that was worth it because they did such a good job. Here is hoping Nintendo does the same thing with our money that Microsoft has been doing.

Not just the road, but an airplane, on a boat, on a train, in a taxi cab, on a school bus, shuttle bus, while your baby sitting your neice, and on and on. This is going to be amazingly convenient compared to massive boxy hd twins.

How do you know that the switch battery will be better than the Wii U? Nintendo claimed the Wii U gamepad would last 3-5 hours. In practice it wasn't that good with decent brightness settings. Now the switch is supposed to last 2.5-6 hours? With a larger screen, and doing all of the console's processing, and handling inputs from multiple controllers Sounds like it could actually be worse than the Wii U.

There's a huge assumption that Nintendo's online network is going to get substantially better. Almost everything about the switch kinda screams "money grab" from Nintendo going after their loyal 10-15 million fan base. They're gouging them on the price of the console. They're gouging them on the price of accessories. They're gouging them on the price of games. What makes you think they're not gouging them on Network play because they know their fanbase is willing to pay it?

Massively convenient for who? What makes you believe people want to be able to take their consoles on the go like that? I don't wish I could just pop my PS4  out of its dock to take over to my friends house, because it would be substantially less powerful in order to  do that, and hooking it up to his TV takes less than 2 minutes. Furthermore, if you want to play the switch on your friend's TV instead of that tiny tablet screen, it's just as much work to get your switch up and running as it is to hook up any other console.