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Will Nintendo attract more customers with the Switch?

yes 63 32.47%
 
no way 76 39.18%
 
don't know 40 20.62%
 
don't care 15 7.73%
 
Total:194

I really doubt it. Kids want CoD and the likes, not wacky motion controls, that's not "cool" anymore. Then again, I'm no seer, Nintendo might get that Wii craze once again...but I mean, I highly HIGHLY doubt it. They gotta get the console, as well as 1,2 Switch which looks off and we honestly just got a bunch of pantomiming during its stage time, not to mention, it ain't bundled.

EDIT: Wow, that poll is very hopeful for a motion control renaissance, I'm shocked. 

EDIT2: Just saw some 1,2 Switch footage from the treehouse, that looks lame as fuuuuuuuck.



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bunchanumbers said:

Nintendo's whole strategy is banking on it. Its why they brought back the Wiimotes. Its why they went with a familiar form factor. If they don't get the Wii crowd, or even a fraction of the Wii crowd, Switch will be in rough shape. Personally I think its a rough sale. Wii came out of nowhere with a easy to understand concept, easy to understand controller, a casual price, and came packed with a game that made fantastic use of the control scheme.

Switch is doing none of these things.

I think before we go too overboard it's important to note that of everything shown by Nintendo only one game requires motion controls -- 1,2 Switch, which isn't the showcase title for Nintendo, there's a reason they got it out of the way first rather than the Wii U unveiling which ended with Nintendo Land fireworks.

Even ARMS allows you to play with traditional controls and watching that game in motion, it's clear it's actually more Nintendo's take on the 1-on-1 fighter ala Street Fighter II that people have been asking for since the 1990s. 

Switch is actually possibly the most "hardcore" Nintendo system since the GameCube, Zelda: BotW is a huge open world game and that's the show piece title. Mario Odyessy direct from Nintendo is a return to the more open world Mario 3D games (Mario 64 and Sunshine) and not the more casual style of Mario platformers. 

Xenoblade 2 (epic RPG), Fire Emblem Warriors (hack n' slash), ARMS (arena fighter), Mario Kart (weapons racer), Splatoon (team online shooter) ... these are still core games that would appear on any Nintendo console. 

Even the Wii U had more casual fare early on -- Nintendo Land, Sing Party, Game & Wario, Wii Party U, Wii Fit U, Wii Sports Club, Mario & Sonic Olympics, and NSMBU within the first 12 months basically alone. 

Switch looks like just 1,2 Switch for the first 10 months. If you have a "mobile console" then having two detachable controllers so you can have multiplayer in a burst anytime anywhere is a good option, and even the Joycons horizontally have an analog stick w/click and six full action buttons -- plenty for "real" gaming. It you were going to have detachable controllers then having some kind of motion control in them just made sense. This isn't even a new idea for Nintendo, they've had this concept for ages:

In fact I called this idea of a portable like game system that you could set down in public and have people gather around and play together well before the Switch unveil. It's an idea that has a long hertiage in Nintendo design philosophy. 



JRPGfan said:

Im not sure how the handheld crowd will react to 2.5 hours - 3hours of battery life, in a game like Zelda BoTW on the Switch. Nor the 299$ price point (very few handhelds are sold that expensive and sell well).

The handheld crowd that buys nintendo handhelds is a huge part of their market. Hopefully once nintendo cuts price by like 100$ the 3DS owners will start jumping ship to the switch.

Wasn't it 2.5 to 6.5? 



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Honestly, yes. The fact that so many fans on this site don't like it leads me to believe that the average consumer will like it. What we expect and what the general population wants are two very different things.



Veknoid_Outcast said:
Honestly, yes. The fact that so many fans on this site don't like it leads me to believe that the average consumer will like it. What we expect and what the general population wants are two very different things.

Seems to me like the most popular systems here are 1. PS4 (by a large margin) 2. 3DS 3. XBox One 4. Wii U 

Looking at sales .... that seems right around reality. If anything this board is probably over representative of Nintendo fans, there's way more Nintendo fans here than in actual game market, if this forum's chatter was what you based market success on, you would think Nintendo is neck and neck with Sony in the console department when they're a distant third to even MS. 

The other main thing this board is out of touch with is mobile gaming ... I think the average gamer plays a hell of a lot more smartphone games than people here do. If VGChartz was reality, you'd see everyone playing on a 3DS or Vita walking down the street and not a smartphone in sight anywhere. 



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Soundwave said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:
Honestly, yes. The fact that so many fans on this site don't like it leads me to believe that the average consumer will like it. What we expect and what the general population wants are two very different things.

Seems to me like the most popular systems here are 1. PS4 (by a large margin) 2. 3DS 3. XBox One 4. Wii U. 

Looking at sales .... yeah that seems about right. 

The main thing this board is out of touch with is mobile gaming ... I think the average gamer plays a hell of a lot more smartphone games than people here do. 

That's fine but we're a community of video game fans. I'm saying that the general population, millions and millions larger than our world, thinks and expects differently.



Casuals are not going to drop close to $400 to buy a Switch and a game. They'll just download free games on their phones.



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Veknoid_Outcast said:
Soundwave said:

Seems to me like the most popular systems here are 1. PS4 (by a large margin) 2. 3DS 3. XBox One 4. Wii U. 

Looking at sales .... yeah that seems about right. 

The main thing this board is out of touch with is mobile gaming ... I think the average gamer plays a hell of a lot more smartphone games than people here do. 

That's fine but we're a community of video game fans. I'm saying that the general population, millions and millions larger than our world, thinks and expects differently.

It thinks and acts differently from the Nintendo Group-Think here too though as well. There's been many, many, many times here that Nintendo fans claimed something was going to happen and the market said "nope" and a lot of the Nintendo community has been in deep, deep denial over the migration of casuals to smartphones. 

Some people thought Wii Music would be the second coming too. 

The fact is actually Switch is probably the more "hardcore" Nintendo system since the GameCube or N64. Look at the lineup, the only motion only game is 1,2 Switch, and ARMS when you actually look at it is certainly not for the "soccer mom" crowd, it's a 1-on-1 Street Fighter game done Nintendo style, it might be more complex than even Smash Bros. from what I saw. 

Mario Odyessy is a return to the 64/Sunshine more difficult to play Marios, Zelda: BotW, Xenoblade 2, Fire Emblem Warriors, even Splatoon ... these are not really "casual" games, these are the core games Nintendo fans want. 

Fact is the game industry doesn't even need Nintendo to make casual games anymore ... there's more people playing video games today than ever before (even at the height of the Wii/DS era). Smartphones and tablets have done that. We'll see how sales for 1,2 Switch go, but I don't think they're going to be that great (I could be wrong), but I think that's another Wii Party U/Wii Fit U/Brain Training 3DS/Nintendo Land type of impact if that. Here's a image from Nintendo themselves also that shows Mario Odyessy belongs to he family of Mario Sunshine and Mario 64, not 3D World/Land/Galaxy:

Nintendo can attract new gamers ... but the same way they've always gotten new gamers -- by getting a new generation of kids hooked on new franchises like Splatoon and ARMS and also introduced to their older characters like Pokemon and Mario. Not with a $50 mini-game compilation that has the depth of a smartphone app, that's not going to work anymore. 



Maybe the Switch can attract new gamers or maybe it can't ...

The biggest hurdle are the games when most of these flagship titles have very limited appeal outside of it's targeted audience ...