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starcraft on 09 January 2017

No Xbox thread has gotten this much attention since Tomb Raider went timed exclusive.



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jason1637 on 09 January 2017
JRPGfan said:
Bandorr said:
It absolutely did feel like Microsoft was trying to force this game into Multiplayer.
Infact it feels like Microsoft is trying to almost exclusively into Multiplayer games.

I think Sea of thieves would have been fantastic as a single player game.

Fable legends, scalebound, crackdown,sea of theives.

= all heavily focused on multiplayer.

 

Has microsoft given up on single player games? and those elements in games?

Well they will have Halo Wars 2, and Forza 7 next year which will probably have a SP focus.

GribbleGrunger said:
It won't be long before MS start calling all their games 'Windows exclusives'. Perhaps the penny will drop then.

It wont happen.



Dravenet7 on 09 January 2017

This is sad stuff. I am surprised,  but I shouldn't because the signs were all there though. That being said I am stunned by the outpour I am seeing over this game to be honest.



pbroy on 09 January 2017
starcraft said:
No Xbox thread has gotten this much attention since Tomb Raider went timed exclusive.

Yup, everyone was going to get an Xbone just for this game. Sucks man.. 😐

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Guitarguy on 09 January 2017

Wow that is major. The concept and environments seemed good but the execution and gameplay seems on the boring side to me but still this is a major loss to Xbox One.



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mountaindewslave on 09 January 2017

yikes, considering this was arguably one of the most hyped Xbox One exclusives

granted some of the reception to the latest footage a while back wasn't the most positive, but still



SvennoJ on 09 January 2017
JRPGfan said:

 

From Neogaf:  by ShockingAlberto.

"Ah, here's what I was looking for



July 2015: "Those shits at MS...are they fucking with me?"

So, let's set a timeline HEAVY with speculation. Game was announced at E3 2014 without much notice. It skipped E3 2015, but showed up at Gamescom that year in August with an announcement of four-player co-op, which was shown off with a much rougher game in E3 2016's conference. The game was then cancelled soon after.

My guess is that, in July, Kamiya was told he had to rejigger the game into a four-player co-op thing. There were never any hints he wanted to make the game a Monster Hunter-like, but I am guessing people in charge of money were expecting him to do so. It gets announced, shown off, and the response is tepid. Changing tides at Microsoft, a desire to free up the UE4 team they put together to work with Kamiya, and being unhappy with the state of the game lead to it being cancelled.

If my guess is correct, that's really sad."

MS probably bares a big part of the burden of why this game ended up as it did.

 

mutantsushi said:
SvennoJ said:
Perhaps Nintendo is right and it is time to scale down to more manageable hardware.
It seems the market isn't big enough to sustain games that aren't a guaranteed hit, and thus can't make back their AAA budget. 

Uh... Or maybe it was just a crap game whose developer couldn't manage it with the number of other games on their plate?
And honestly speaking, I am rather dubious of calling Scalebound "AAA", it honestly felt from the beginning to be a "AA" effort.
What "AAA" developer manages the number of simultaneus titles that Platinum does?  That's a hint for you.

More hardware power doesn't need to translate to huge development costs.
Take any Nintendo game, add more hardware, and get better resolution, AA, lighting, material rendering... With little extra dev costs.
Having one or a few extra engine programmers is really little cost inthe scope of total development (and promotion) costs.
Sure, hardware power can enable games not possible without it, but EQUALLY is usable for simple upgrades of game experience.
Specifically in Platinum's case, hardware power can EASE development for a studio stretched with many projects,
where we see them successfully going forward with Nier on PS4 while dropping Scalebound on Xbone.  Think about it.
PC is known for hardware performance, even at low end.  Yet indies which are not performance centric thrive on PC.

But realistically speaking, the vast majority of AAA games are of genres which existed 10 years ago.  
Applying your "Grand Theory of Everything" of videogames to every single case is just circular logic.
And I hardly see how that relates to Nintendo or their choice to NOT use modern fab for a simple 20-30% performance:watt boost.
(which would not challenge Xbone performance, but would give alot more performance headroom, incl. for "Nintendo style games")
But I suppose that is the conundrum with Nintendo fans, who do not understand tech, but create grand theories hinging on it.

You forgot to quote the rest of my reasoning. It's not just the extra work for the graphics, it's that the game needs to be a jack of all trades to justify the budget for the looks. Much less graphical details to fill out the world with, results in needing smaller budgets and less development time. Ofcourse it's their own fault for showing off a target render before being clear on the scope of the game. (Or maybe MS is to blame there)

More hardware power doesn't have to translate to huge development cost, yet sadly, hugely detailed open worlds is what is expected nowadays to justify that hardware power. Add 4 player co-op with endless gameplay and development soon spirals out of control. Plus these mid gen refreshes are adding extra strain, not making it easier with a bit more headroom.

I'm fine with the smaller more simplictic looking PSVR games that utilize the hardware to better present those far less detailed worlds. Yet there's plenty that write it off as ugly and not worthy to be called real games.

I hope Horizon Zero dawn turns out allright. Another dev taking a shot at openworld. Hopefully GG didn't get overwhelmed with feature creep and has a decent core game.



fielding88 on 09 January 2017

It's sad, I didn't even care about this game for the past few years. It was just a few weeks ago when I was looking at what I had to look forward to buying on the console this year that I thought "Oh yeah, Scalebound. I think I'll pick that up when it comes out." But I guess not.



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Chazore on 09 January 2017
starcraft said:
No Xbox thread has gotten this much attention since Tomb Raider went timed exclusive.

Anything with MS and a Japanese dev is going to get trashed. In fact after this, anything else seemingly good from their end will be gutted time and time again. Despite a lot of other comapnies out there doing bad shit, MS will keep getting the main punishment till the end of the gen, if not nexy gen as well. The image has already been created for how this gen will look and it will please those who love partaking in the silly war all the more.

 

OT:

I'm also loving this totally not newfound hatred for MP based games. Not like Overwatch got any bad rap for being MP only, no sir.



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mountaindewslave on 09 January 2017
Fei-Hung said:
Wonder what this means for PG as they seemed to be on a streak. It's a shame for those that were looking forward to this.

arguably not on a streak lately at all, their Starfox game (albeit not their fault) was overall a disappointment since it seemed mostly just like a reskin, and their Ninja Turtles game (despite highly anticipated) was a mega disaster

its been a big downfall for Platinum Games of late, not sure what is going on with them