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KrspaceT on 08 January 2017

Is it a chicken and the egg question, or is there a definite answer. 

 

Does it start with the gamers, or the games themselves? If the gamers don't buy is it the publishers fault? If the games are bad, is it the fans fault?

 

I admit I am thinking about this question with the switch looming and I'd like some thoughts on the matter. 



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SonytendoAmiibo on 08 January 2017
KrspaceT said:

Is it a chicken and the egg question, or is there a definite answer. 

 

Does it start with the gamers, or the games themselves? If the gamers don't buy is it the publishers fault? If the games are bad, is it the fans fault?

 

I admit I am thinking about this question with the switch looming and I'd like some thoughts on the matter. 

 

Well, first all the heavy elements like carbon that make a chicken and egg had to be created by a super nova somewhere in the universe. When the big bang happened there was only hydrogen, no chickens or eggs.

   

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Jizz_Beard_thePirate on 08 January 2017

Well, for it to be Nintendo fan's fault, the port has to be well optimized, have all the content, during ads it has to have Switch logo beside the rest and has to be released at the sametime as on other platforms. If it has all those checked and Nintendo fans still don't buy them, then its very hard to fault the publisher since they did all they could.



                  

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bunchanumbers on 08 January 2017

It started in the 80s when Nintendo wanted to keep control of 3rd parties and it has been a distrustful relationship ever since.



vivster on 08 January 2017

Well, at first Nintendo decided it doesn't want third parties anymore and of course their loyal fans followed that brilliant idea.



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Veknoid_Outcast on 08 January 2017

No it's not the consumers' fault that some third party games don't sell well on Nintendo systems. Those who invest in Nintendo systems have games they want to play, and they're not heavy hitters from EA, Activision, Ubisoft, etc. They're mostly games from Nintendo itself.

It just doesn't make sense for Nintendo and studios like EA and Activision to have a good relationship. Nintendo wants modest hardware, third parties insist on powerful hardware. Nintendo wants to go its own way, third parties want concessions, payoffs, advertising deals. Nintendo makes highly desirable first party software, third parties want an ecosystem with less competition.

Folks need to let go of this dream.



KLAMarine on 08 January 2017
bunchanumbers said:
It started in the 80s when Nintendo wanted to keep control of 3rd parties and it has been a distrustful relationship ever since.
Ka-pi96 said:
It`s Nintendo`s fault. They`re the ones that alienated 3rd party publishers and pushed them away to Sony/Microsoft in the first place. Hearing about some of the things they demanded from 3rd parties that released on their system back in the NES/SNES days and... well they deserve to not have any 3rd party games. Sony just had to come along and not act like a massive cunt to everyone else (something that shouldn`t be difficult for anyone) and that alone made them a way better choice for 3rd parties than Nintendo.

I don't think third parties are vindictive like this. Third parties will put titles on the Switch if they believe it will make them money. They're businesses after all, not people with emotions. Third parties aim to profit first and foremost and if they see opportunity in Nintendo's platform, they will try developing for it regardless of what business relationships were like 20-30 years ago.



Lonely_Dolphin on 08 January 2017

It's only Nintendo's fault their system isn't the place for third party games anymore. How can I buy third party games when the majority don't exist on their system, and why would I buy the few that do for their system when all my theoretical friends have the game on a different system?



potato_hamster on 08 January 2017
KrspaceT said:

Is it a chicken and the egg question, or is there a definite answer. 

 

Does it start with the gamers, or the games themselves? If the gamers don't buy is it the publishers fault? If the games are bad, is it the fans fault?

 

I admit I am thinking about this question with the switch looming and I'd like some thoughts on the matter. 

Trick question, nothing is ever Nintendo (or it's fan's) fault!

Dozens of publishers have made great, highly reviewed games that sold absolutely terribly on Nintendo platforms, so they don't bother making any more. The average Nintendo fan doesn't really care about third party games, but the again, the average Nintendo fan also bought a Wii U.



bananaking21 on 08 January 2017

It started with Nintendo