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Veknoid_Outcast said:
Carl said:

Now I'm home I want to point this out, I couldn't do so earlier.

In all my time as a moderator there has never been an instance of moderators needing to wait for head moderator approval before making decisions. Are you now saying that the rules have changed within the team and moderators now have to wait for or ask for approval from Miguel, CGI or Ryuu?

This is extremely important.

I'd actually like clarification on this also. If this is true, it may be counter-productive. One, it would lead to bottlenecks, particularly when head mods are unavailable. Two, it would concentrate a lot of power in the hands of a select few, thus diminishing what Pemalite correctly identified as the strength of the mod team: 

"The thing is... The mod team is comprised of many individuals who all have differing biases... So the mod team can argue a position and come to a conclusion that we can all agree on, making any individual biases ultimately irrelevant."

It all depends a bit on the situation, but generally speaking, my experience isn't that you need the permission of a head mod to take action. If it's a particularly sensitive matter, or a borderline issue, it's encouraged to wait for their input, but outside of that I wouldn't say it's required by any means. Usually what will happen if one brings up an issue in mod chat, is that we look for a consensus between whoever is around at the time, or at least wait for a second opinion if nobody is currently around. If it's a particularly straightforward matter, it's also fine to simply take action, provided you at least mention it in mod chat, so it can be looked at later. I've done this quite a few times myself, and as long as it's noted for the record, the head mods have never taken issue. There may be some input on things they would have done differently in some cases, but I certainly wouldn't say that we're not given the freedom to do our jobs adequately. 



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Angelus said:
Veknoid_Outcast said:

I'd actually like clarification on this also. If this is true, it may be counter-productive. One, it would lead to bottlenecks, particularly when head mods are unavailable. Two, it would concentrate a lot of power in the hands of a select few, thus diminishing what Pemalite correctly identified as the strength of the mod team: 

"The thing is... The mod team is comprised of many individuals who all have differing biases... So the mod team can argue a position and come to a conclusion that we can all agree on, making any individual biases ultimately irrelevant."

It all depends a bit on the situation, but generally speaking, my experience isn't that you need the permission of a head mod to take action. If it's a particularly sensitive matter, or a borderline issue, it's encouraged to wait for their input, but outside of that I wouldn't say it's required by any means. Usually what will happen if one brings up an issue in mod chat, is that we look for a consensus between whoever is around at the time, or at least wait for a second opinion if nobody is currently around. If it's a particularly straightforward matter, it's also fine to simply take action, provided you at least mention it in mod chat, so it can be looked at later. I've done this quite a few times myself, and as long as it's noted for the record, the head mods have never taken issue. There may be some input on things they would have done differently in some cases, but I certainly wouldn't say that we're not given the freedom to do our jobs adequately. 

Ok thanks for the clarification!



@Rolstoppable, not going to quote because I'm on mobile and it's a pain in the ass.

Regarding my own posts about Nintendo, if you went back a year you'd probably be right. However I'm firmly back on the Nintendo train now, for the past 4 months the Switch has been my platform of choice. I've praised SMO as nearly perfect, Super Mario Party as a return to form, Tom Nook is my bae. Switch is currently my main gaming device.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with not praising X, Y or Z though, just that if it wasn't lacking it would be evidence against malicious intent.

As for Quickrick, no. I wasn't aware his ban was shortened, didn't request/suggest it should be shortened, and haven't contested his latest ban.



RolStoppable said:
Barkley said:
@Rolstoppable, not going to quote because I'm on mobile and it's a pain in the ass.

Regarding my own posts about Nintendo, if you went back a year you'd probably be right. However I'm firmly back on the Nintendo train now, for the past 4 months the Switch has been my platform of choice. I've praised SMO as nearly perfect, Super Mario Party as a return to form, Tom Nook is my bae. Switch is currently my main gaming device.

I'm not saying there's anything wrong with not praising X, Y or Z though, just that if it wasn't lacking it would be evidence against malicious intent.

As for Quickrick, no. I wasn't aware his ban was shortened, didn't request/suggest it should be shortened, and haven't contested his latest ban.

quickrick's ban wasn't shortened. It's still two weeks long of which one week is left now.

I mean, when it happened you didn't like it. There's still time to do something about it. Such as transforming it from Flaming to Other (Disrespectful conduct in the Moderator Thread, ignoring the rules and guidelines set by the mod team.), so why not give it a shot? He already served a week which should be sufficient for the described offense, so he could basically get unbanned immediately.

I thought it was very unfortunate that he was banned so soon after returning from his last ban, however that doesn't mean that I think the action taken was wrong, or that any changes need to be made now.



ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Time passes, i barely come Here for this year , dont see this thread on months, still the same old same old come Here every day to complain about moderation. When i come Here a year from today they Will be Here doing backsitting moderation still. Vgchartz never changes

Unfortunately there are always the same vocal few that keep stirring the pot. 



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think-man said:
ClassicGamingWizzz said:
Time passes, i barely come Here for this year , dont see this thread on months, still the same old same old come Here every day to complain about moderation. When i come Here a year from today they Will be Here doing backsitting moderation still. Vgchartz never changes

Unfortunately there are always the same vocal few that keep stirring the pot. 

Do you see how Pemalite, Bristow9091 and Angelus are actively discussing things with people and doing their jobs as moderators?

It speaks volumes that your only contribution to the discussion has been to endorse and add to a drive-by shit post.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8229290

Miguel_Zorro said:

 

  • All of the regular rules apply in this thread.  There's no free pass to flame people here, even if it's in support of the mods. :)


                            

Kerotan said:
Will you be applying to rejoin the mod team Carl next time around? Sounds like you are still very much interested in the role.

Maybe I'll have to think about this.



                            

Carl said:
think-man said:

Unfortunately there are always the same vocal few that keep stirring the pot. 

Do you see how Pemalite, Bristow9091 and Angelus are actively discussing things with people and doing their jobs as moderators?

It speaks volumes that your only contribution to the discussion has been to endorse and add to a drive-by shit post.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8229290

Miguel_Zorro said:

 

  • All of the regular rules apply in this thread.  There's no free pass to flame people here, even if it's in support of the mods. :)

Are you attacking me Carl? 



Just as a general thread warning... This is not the place to dispute bans, other people bans, your own bans.
This is not an outlet to have a never ending whinge about the mods or moderation's.

I suggest everyone does a re-read of Miguels post if you aren't clear on what this thread is actually about: http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8909978

Last edited by Pemalite - on 16 November 2018


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think-man said:
Carl said:

Do you see how Pemalite, Bristow9091 and Angelus are actively discussing things with people and doing their jobs as moderators?

It speaks volumes that your only contribution to the discussion has been to endorse and add to a drive-by shit post.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8229290

Are you attacking me Carl? 

I highly advise you to contribute something constructive to this thread going forward, the rules are pretty clear on what this thread is for.