We're definitely not on the same level because I'm having so much fun with FFXV.

Perhaps it should be, but as I said, taking scores at face value doesn't really tell us much and isn't a perfect metric for direct comparisions. Your explaination was far more insightful than looking at two numbers that were averaged years apart and trying to decipher the meaning.

For what it's worth, I thought the story telling was garbage in XV but found it a lot more enjoyable as an overall experience than XIII. It had problems for sure, but in a way it, for me personally, created something more charming and likable than XIII. XIII felt like a chore. XV felt like a lovable goof-up and I was much more endeared to it. Then again, I've never been huge on Final Fantasy so I'm looking in at it more as an outsider to the series.

Be that as it may, it is still tangable flaws while XIIIs are more of preference. I hated the cast, linearity, and music; but some people may have enjoyed it which would put that game above XV.

Some people could argue that XIII had no flaws, while that's not the case with XV which has flaws on a game design level. Love XV all you want, but it is flawed.

I'd argue that having no widely agreed upon flaws doesn't by default make something better than something that has flaws but is a more enjoyable experience. But it just comes down to individual standards and feelings, in the end. Neither of our feelings are more valid than the others. My argument was mostly to not put so much value on a score.

As it was one of my favorite games of 2016 I am gonna have to go with no, which is conspicuously absent from the poll soo....

FF13 has a better score, and deserve it, FF15 it's a mess, it trys to do a lot of things but without deep; history, char progression, open world (empty) invisible walls, the music is not on the same league of the Hironobu Sakaguchi FF's all of this makes the game 5/10 it si not on the same league of FF 1 to 9.

Some pretty bad, some amazing. I've really enjoyed it, but there are glaring issues with the game. Sidequests, story, characters. The world is vast (too vast at times), monsters are really awesome looking, and I enjoy the combat!

A few weeks ago it was minor complaints.
Now everyone hates it.
Same as FFXIII, same as FFVII except the other way round.
Can people not think for themselves?
Who thought FFVII was all that on release?
Who had even heard of FF before FFVI?
Who thought IX was the best FF ever at release? Hell, even VIII was considered amazing on release until it was cool to hate it and pretend it didn't exist.

Hey remember when everyone and their dog used Sephiroth as a username on forums, then there was Kratos...

Such sycophantic thinking. It's embarrassing.
Good lord, it's enough to vomit.

I hate it. It's FFXIII for 2016. It's less fun than Phantasy Star Universe.

It's self aware trash.

Final Fantasy XV is a huge step in the right direction to put the series back on track after the XIII trilogy.

It is not the beat game, but it is certainly an excellent mainline entry and deserves all the praise it gets and then some. Love it!

I'm loving the game so far!