By using this site, you agree to our Privacy Policy and our Terms of Use. Close

Forums - Microsoft - Will the Scorpio own the PS4Pro in EVERY hardware category?

DonFerrari on 03 January 2017
DraconianAC said:
Barkley said:

Don't worry that's all I do on this site, I run into threads without reading anything all the time.

And nooooooo! HDR is really good! It's not stupid at all. T_T

I'm sorry, please don't take it in a wrong way; if you use it all the time, and you love it, please feel free to ignore my opinion. I'm just pretty sure there is not enough content out there to warrant the purchase for me. I mean, our live tv is still brodcasting at 720p here in Southern California. I have to watch Netflix, or a blu-ray to get the most out of my HD tv.

So I'm applying the same logic to consoles. I bought a PS4 thinking it would be "top dog" for 7 years because of the longevity of the PS3. How wrong was I. I don't think the console manufacturers took into account all the physics that game developers were going to pack into the 8th gen games, which makes it harder to meet the 1080p/60fps standard(The Bar). And now that 1.5 8th gen consoles are out, I just don't see the need to buy them. They will not do 4k right, I think they are just a place holder until it becomes cost effective to produce a 4k 30fps console.

For those people buying their first Xbox or PS4, they should totally get the pro or scorpion (whatever the hell they are called). They will be the true versions of the 8th generation console that can play the AAA titles at 1080p/60fps with all the bells and whistles, as for me. I'm going to wait for the OLED. =P

You weren't wrong and answered yourself... since you can ignore PS4Pro and Scorpio and keep buying the new games your PS4 or X1 is still a current gen console that may live 7 years, we won't be sure until PS5/X2 arises.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Around the Network
KingofTrolls on 03 January 2017

aLkaLiNE said:

 You are absolutely welcome to tally up the list or find an objectively better one, I would welcome it actually.

Let it be.

Here are  exclusives and platform  exclusives.

Retail Only. 

Xbox One

Upcoming

Retail

 

  • [Pending] Mystereet F: The Detectives’ Curtain Call (5pb.)
  • [Pending] Natsuki Chronicle (Qute)
  • [Pending] Shooting Love Trilogy (Triangle Service)
  • [Pending] Yomi wo Saku Hana (Experience)

Released

Retail

 

  • [Import] Azito x Tatsunoko Legends (Hamster)
  • Fantasia: Music Evolved (Disney Interactive)
  • Forza Horizon 2 (Microsoft)
  • Forza Motorsport 5 (Microsoft)
  • Forza Motorsport 6 (Microsoft)
  • Halo: The Master Chief Collection (Microsoft)
  • Halo 5: Guardians (Microsoft)
  • Powerstar Golf (Microsoft)
  • Rare Replay (Microsoft)
  • ScreamRide (Microsoft)
  • Sunset Overdrive (Microsoft)
  • Zoo Tycoon (Microsoft)

PS4

Released

Retail

 

  • [Import] Blade Arcus from Shining EX (Sega)
  • BlazBlue: Central Fiction (Aksys Games)
  • Bloodborne (SIE)
  • [Import] Crows: Burning Edge (Bandai Namco)
  • [Import | English] Dead or Alive Xtreme 3: Fortune (Koei Tecmo)
  • Deception IV: The Nightmare Princess (Koei Tecmo)
  • [Import] Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax Ignition (Sega)
  • Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth (Bandai Namco)
  • Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance (NIS America)
  • Dragon Quest Builders (Square Enix)
  • Driveclub (SIE)
  • Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition (Koei Tecmo)
  • Exist Archive: The Other Side of the Sky (Aksys Games)
  • Gal Gun: Double Peace (PQube)
  • [Import] God Eater Off Shot Cross-Play Pack & Anime Vol. 1-7 (Bandai Namco)
  • God of War III Remastered (SIE)
  • Godzilla (Bandai Namco)
  • Grand Kingdom (NIS America)
  • Gravity Rush Remastered (SIE)
  • Guilty Gear Xrd: Revelator (Aksys Games)
  • [Import | English] Gundam Breaker 3 (Bandai Namco)
  • Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X (Sega)
  • inFAMOUS: Second Son (SIE)
  • [Import] The Idolmaster: Platinum Stars (Bandai Namco)
  • [Import] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 2016 (Konami)
  • Journey: Collector’s Edition (SIE)
  • J-Stars Victory VS+ (Bandai Namco)
  • [Import] Kamen Rider: Battride War Genesis (Bandai Namco)
  • Killzone: Shadow Fall (SIE)
  • The King of Fighters XIV (Atlus)
    • Knack (SIE)
  • [Import] Koihime Enbu (Yeti)
  • Kromaia Omega (Rising Star Games)
  • The Last Guardian (SIE)
  • The Last of Us Remastered (SIE)
  • LittleBigPlanet 3 (SIE)
  • MLB: The Show 14 (SIE)
  • MLB: The Show 15 (SIE)
  • MLB: The Show 16 (SIE)
  • [Import] Natsuiro High School: Seishun Hakujo (D3 Publisher)
  • Natural Doctrine (NIS America)
  • Nights of Azure (Koei Tecmo)
  • Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel (XSEED Games)
  • Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (Atlus)
  • Omega Quintet (Idea Factory International)
  • The Order: 1886 (SIE)
  • [Import] Punch Line (5pb.)
  • Ratchet & Clank (SIE)
  • Root Letter (PQube)
  • Samurai Warriors 4 (Koei Tecmo)
  • Samurai Warriors 4: Empires (Koei Tecmo)
  • [Import] Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi (Capcom)
  • [Import] Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den (Capcom)
  • [Import | English] SD Gundam G Generation Genesis (Bandai Namco)
  • Senran Kagura: Estival Versus (XSEED Games)
  • Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness (Square Enix)
  • Steins;Gate 0 (PQube)
  • [Import | English] Super Robot Wars OG: The Moon Dwellers (Bandai Namco)
  • Sword Art Online: Lost Song (Bandai Namco)
  • Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization (Bandai Namco)
  • Tearaway Unfolded (SIE)
  • Tokyo Twilight Ghost Hunters Daybreak: Special Gigs (Aksys Games)
  • Touhou Genso Rondo: Bullet Ballet (NIS America)
  • Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection (SIE)
  • Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End (SIE)
  • Until Dawn (SIE)
  • [Import] Utawawerumono: The False Faces (Aquaplus)
  • [Import] Utawawerumono: The Two Hakuoros (Aquaplus)
  • Valkyria Chronicles Remastered (Sega)
  • Wild Guns Reloaded (Natsume)
  • The Witch and the Hundred Knight: Revival Edition (NIS America)
  • World of Final Fantasy (Square Enix)
  • [Import] Yakuza: Ishin (Sega)

Retail

 

  • [Pending] 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (Atlus)
  • [Pending] Accel World vs. Sword Art Online: Millennium Twilight (Bandai Namco)
  • Ace Combat 7 (Bandai Namco)
  • Akiba’s Beat (XSEED Games)
  • [Pending] Anonymous;Code (5pb.)
  • [Pending] Blue Reflection: Sword of the Girl Who Dances in Illusions (Gust)
  • [Import] Chaos;Child: Love Chu Chu!! (5pb.)
  • [Pending] City Shrouded in Shadow (Bandai Namco)
  • Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (Activision)
  • Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony (NIS America)
  • Dark Rose Valkyrie (Idea Factory International)
  • Days Gone (SIE)
  • Death Stranding (SIE)
  • Detroit: Become Human (SIE)
  • Digimon World: Next Order (Bandai Namco)
  • [Pending] Disaster Report 4 Plus: Summer Memories (Granzella)
  • DJMAX Respect (Neowiz Games)
  • Dragon Quest Heroes II (Square Enix)
  • [Pending] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time [Console Ver.] (Square Enix)
  • Dreams (SIE)
  • [Pending] Earth Defense Force 5 (D3 Publisher)
  • Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (XSEED Games)
  • Final Fantasy VII Remake (Square Enix)
  • Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (Square Enix)
  • [Pending] Four Goddesses Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune (Compile Heart)
  • God of War (SIE)
  • God Wars: Future Past (NIS America)
  • [Pending] Granblue Fantasy Project Re: Link (Cygames)
  • Gran Turismo Sport (SIE)
  • Gravity Rush 2 (SIE)
  • [Pending | English] Gundam Versus (Bandai Namco)
  • [Pending] Happy Manager (D3 Publisher)
  • Horizon: Zero Dawn (SIE)
  • [Pending] Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix)
  • [Pending] Killing Bites (Nex Entertainment)
  • Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 + 2.5 Remix (Square Enix)
  • Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8: Final Chapter Prologue (Square Enix)
  • Knack 2 (SIE)
  • The Last of Us Part II (SIE)
  • [Pending] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III (Falcom)
  • MLB: The Show 17 (SIE)
  • [Pending] Musou Stars (Koei Tecmo)
  • [Import] New Game! The Challenge Stage! (5pb.)
  • New Hot Shots Golf (SIE)
  • Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo)
  • Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom (Bandai Namco)
  • Nioh (SIE)
  • Persona 5 (Atlus)
  • [Pending] Re:Zero – Starting Life from Zero- Kiss or Death (5pb.)
  • Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (Koei Tecmo)
  • Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash (XSEED Games)
  • [Pending] SG/ZH School Girl/Zombie Hunter (D3 Publisher)
  • [Import] Song of Memories (Pure Wish)
  • Spider-Man (SIE)
  • Summon Night 6: Lost Borders (Gaijinworks)
  • [Import | English] Super Robot Wars V (Bandai Namco)
  • [Pending] Tokyo Xanadu eX+ (Falcom)
  • Touhou Genso Wanderer (NIS America)
  • Toukiden 2 (Koei Tecmo)
  • Uncharted: The Lost Legacy (SIE)
  • WipEout Omega Collection (SIE)
  • [Pending] The Witch and the Hundred Knight 2 (NIS)
  • Yakuza 0 (Sega)
  • Yakuza: Kiwami (Sega)
  • Yakuza 6 (Sega)
  • [Pending] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana (Falcom)
  • [Pending] YU-NO: A girl who chants love at the bound of this world. (5pb.)


Barkley on 03 January 2017
DonFerrari said:
Conina said:

Do it yourself. YOU are trying to prove that there are soo many good PS4 games that can't be played on Xbox One. I don't care either way, since I have both PS4 and XBO.

I didn't see a claim of one platform being better than the one, just that the 95% shared library is false... I doubt that even if we remove all duplicates, bundles, remasters, bundles, etc the list would be something like PS4 and Xbox around 1000 total games with 25 exclusives each (that would be the 5% difference equaly distributed)

According to Wikipedia, 38.2% of games on PS4 are Exclusive/Console Exclusive. So yeah numerically they certainly don't share anywhere near 95% of their libraries.

 

XBO

Exclusive = 33

Console exclusive = 119

Multiplatform = 826

Total = 993

 

PS4

Exclusive = 114

Console exclusive = 381

Timed = 35

Multiplatform = 688

Total = 1295

 



DonFerrari on 03 January 2017
KingofTrolls said:

Let it be.

Here are  exclusives and platform  exclusives.

Retail Only. 

Xbox One

Upcoming

Retail

 

  • [Pending] Mystereet F: The Detectives’ Curtain Call (5pb.)
  • [Pending] Natsuki Chronicle (Qute)
  • [Pending] Shooting Love Trilogy (Triangle Service)
  • [Pending] Yomi wo Saku Hana (Experience)

Released

Retail

 

  • [Import] Azito x Tatsunoko Legends (Hamster)
  • Fantasia: Music Evolved (Disney Interactive)
  • Forza Horizon 2 (Microsoft)
  • Forza Motorsport 5 (Microsoft)
  • Forza Motorsport 6 (Microsoft)
  • Halo: The Master Chief Collection (Microsoft)
  • Halo 5: Guardians (Microsoft)
  • Powerstar Golf (Microsoft)
  • Rare Replay (Microsoft)
  • ScreamRide (Microsoft)
  • Sunset Overdrive (Microsoft)
  • Zoo Tycoon (Microsoft)

PS4

Released

Retail

 

  • [Import] Blade Arcus from Shining EX (Sega)
  • BlazBlue: Central Fiction (Aksys Games)
  • Bloodborne (SIE)
  • [Import] Crows: Burning Edge (Bandai Namco)
  • [Import | English] Dead or Alive Xtreme 3: Fortune (Koei Tecmo)
  • Deception IV: The Nightmare Princess (Koei Tecmo)
  • [Import] Dengeki Bunko: Fighting Climax Ignition (Sega)
  • Digimon Story: Cyber Sleuth (Bandai Namco)
  • Disgaea 5: Alliance of Vengeance (NIS America)
  • Dragon Quest Builders (Square Enix)
  • Driveclub (SIE)
  • Dynasty Warriors 8: Xtreme Legends Complete Edition (Koei Tecmo)
  • Exist Archive: The Other Side of the Sky (Aksys Games)
  • Gal Gun: Double Peace (PQube)
  • [Import] God Eater Off Shot Cross-Play Pack & Anime Vol. 1-7 (Bandai Namco)
  • God of War III Remastered (SIE)
  • Godzilla (Bandai Namco)
  • Grand Kingdom (NIS America)
  • Gravity Rush Remastered (SIE)
  • Guilty Gear Xrd: Revelator (Aksys Games)
  • [Import | English] Gundam Breaker 3 (Bandai Namco)
  • Hatsune Miku: Project Diva X (Sega)
  • inFAMOUS: Second Son (SIE)
  • [Import] The Idolmaster: Platinum Stars (Bandai Namco)
  • [Import] Jikkyou Powerful Pro Yakyuu 2016 (Konami)
  • Journey: Collector’s Edition (SIE)
  • J-Stars Victory VS+ (Bandai Namco)
  • [Import] Kamen Rider: Battride War Genesis (Bandai Namco)
  • Killzone: Shadow Fall (SIE)
  • The King of Fighters XIV (Atlus)
    • Knack (SIE)
  • [Import] Koihime Enbu (Yeti)
  • Kromaia Omega (Rising Star Games)
  • The Last Guardian (SIE)
  • The Last of Us Remastered (SIE)
  • LittleBigPlanet 3 (SIE)
  • MLB: The Show 14 (SIE)
  • MLB: The Show 15 (SIE)
  • MLB: The Show 16 (SIE)
  • [Import] Natsuiro High School: Seishun Hakujo (D3 Publisher)
  • Natural Doctrine (NIS America)
  • Nights of Azure (Koei Tecmo)
  • Nitroplus Blasterz: Heroines Infinite Duel (XSEED Games)
  • Odin Sphere: Leifthrasir (Atlus)
  • Omega Quintet (Idea Factory International)
  • The Order: 1886 (SIE)
  • [Import] Punch Line (5pb.)
  • Ratchet & Clank (SIE)
  • Root Letter (PQube)
  • Samurai Warriors 4 (Koei Tecmo)
  • Samurai Warriors 4: Empires (Koei Tecmo)
  • [Import] Sengoku Basara 4: Sumeragi (Capcom)
  • [Import] Sengoku Basara: Sanada Yukimura-Den (Capcom)
  • [Import | English] SD Gundam G Generation Genesis (Bandai Namco)
  • Senran Kagura: Estival Versus (XSEED Games)
  • Star Ocean: Integrity and Faithlessness (Square Enix)
  • Steins;Gate 0 (PQube)
  • [Import | English] Super Robot Wars OG: The Moon Dwellers (Bandai Namco)
  • Sword Art Online: Lost Song (Bandai Namco)
  • Sword Art Online: Hollow Realization (Bandai Namco)
  • Tearaway Unfolded (SIE)
  • Tokyo Twilight Ghost Hunters Daybreak: Special Gigs (Aksys Games)
  • Touhou Genso Rondo: Bullet Ballet (NIS America)
  • Uncharted: The Nathan Drake Collection (SIE)
  • Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End (SIE)
  • Until Dawn (SIE)
  • [Import] Utawawerumono: The False Faces (Aquaplus)
  • [Import] Utawawerumono: The Two Hakuoros (Aquaplus)
  • Valkyria Chronicles Remastered (Sega)
  • Wild Guns Reloaded (Natsume)
  • The Witch and the Hundred Knight: Revival Edition (NIS America)
  • World of Final Fantasy (Square Enix)
  • [Import] Yakuza: Ishin (Sega)

Retail

 

  • [Pending] 13 Sentinels: Aegis Rim (Atlus)
  • [Pending] Accel World vs. Sword Art Online: Millennium Twilight (Bandai Namco)
  • Ace Combat 7 (Bandai Namco)
  • Akiba’s Beat (XSEED Games)
  • [Pending] Anonymous;Code (5pb.)
  • [Pending] Blue Reflection: Sword of the Girl Who Dances in Illusions (Gust)
  • [Import] Chaos;Child: Love Chu Chu!! (5pb.)
  • [Pending] City Shrouded in Shadow (Bandai Namco)
  • Crash Bandicoot N. Sane Trilogy (Activision)
  • Danganronpa V3: Killing Harmony (NIS America)
  • Dark Rose Valkyrie (Idea Factory International)
  • Days Gone (SIE)
  • Death Stranding (SIE)
  • Detroit: Become Human (SIE)
  • Digimon World: Next Order (Bandai Namco)
  • [Pending] Disaster Report 4 Plus: Summer Memories (Granzella)
  • DJMAX Respect (Neowiz Games)
  • Dragon Quest Heroes II (Square Enix)
  • [Pending] Dragon Quest XI: In Search of Departed Time [Console Ver.] (Square Enix)
  • Dreams (SIE)
  • [Pending] Earth Defense Force 5 (D3 Publisher)
  • Fate/Extella: The Umbral Star (XSEED Games)
  • Final Fantasy VII Remake (Square Enix)
  • Final Fantasy XII: The Zodiac Age (Square Enix)
  • [Pending] Four Goddesses Online: Cyber Dimension Neptune (Compile Heart)
  • God of War (SIE)
  • God Wars: Future Past (NIS America)
  • [Pending] Granblue Fantasy Project Re: Link (Cygames)
  • Gran Turismo Sport (SIE)
  • Gravity Rush 2 (SIE)
  • [Pending | English] Gundam Versus (Bandai Namco)
  • [Pending] Happy Manager (D3 Publisher)
  • Horizon: Zero Dawn (SIE)
  • [Pending] Itadaki Street: Dragon Quest and Final Fantasy 30th Anniversary (Square Enix)
  • [Pending] Killing Bites (Nex Entertainment)
  • Kingdom Hearts HD 1.5 + 2.5 Remix (Square Enix)
  • Kingdom Hearts HD 2.8: Final Chapter Prologue (Square Enix)
  • Knack 2 (SIE)
  • The Last of Us Part II (SIE)
  • [Pending] The Legend of Heroes: Trails of Cold Steel III (Falcom)
  • MLB: The Show 17 (SIE)
  • [Pending] Musou Stars (Koei Tecmo)
  • [Import] New Game! The Challenge Stage! (5pb.)
  • New Hot Shots Golf (SIE)
  • Nights of Azure 2: Bride of the New Moon (Koei Tecmo)
  • Ni no Kuni II: Revenant Kingdom (Bandai Namco)
  • Nioh (SIE)
  • Persona 5 (Atlus)
  • [Pending] Re:Zero – Starting Life from Zero- Kiss or Death (5pb.)
  • Samurai Warriors: Sanada Maru (Koei Tecmo)
  • Senran Kagura: Peach Beach Splash (XSEED Games)
  • [Pending] SG/ZH School Girl/Zombie Hunter (D3 Publisher)
  • [Import] Song of Memories (Pure Wish)
  • Spider-Man (SIE)
  • Summon Night 6: Lost Borders (Gaijinworks)
  • [Import | English] Super Robot Wars V (Bandai Namco)
  • [Pending] Tokyo Xanadu eX+ (Falcom)
  • Touhou Genso Wanderer (NIS America)
  • Toukiden 2 (Koei Tecmo)
  • Uncharted: The Lost Legacy (SIE)
  • WipEout Omega Collection (SIE)
  • [Pending] The Witch and the Hundred Knight 2 (NIS)
  • Yakuza 0 (Sega)
  • Yakuza: Kiwami (Sega)
  • Yakuza 6 (Sega)
  • [Pending] Ys VIII: Lacrimosa of Dana (Falcom)
  • [Pending] YU-NO: A girl who chants love at the bound of this world. (5pb.)

I fell people still hanging to 95% "truth"



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

DonFerrari on 03 January 2017
Barkley said:
DonFerrari said:

I didn't see a claim of one platform being better than the one, just that the 95% shared library is false... I doubt that even if we remove all duplicates, bundles, remasters, bundles, etc the list would be something like PS4 and Xbox around 1000 total games with 25 exclusives each (that would be the 5% difference equaly distributed)

According to Wikipedia, 38.2% of games on PS4 are Exclusive/Console Exclusive. So yeah numerically they certainly don't share anywhere near 95% of their libraries.

 

XBO

Exclusive = 33

Console exclusive = 119

Multiplatform = 826

Total = 993

 

PS4

Exclusive = 114

Console exclusive = 381

Timed = 35

Multiplatform = 688

Total = 1295

 

is the 140+ multiplatforms X1 have over PS4 mostly PC games or what?

An sure if we do an Kant analysis the total will be very very far from 95% to the point that would be more accurate to say the share 50% of the library than 95%



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

Around the Network
KingofTrolls on 03 January 2017
DonFerrari said:

I fell people still hanging to 95% "truth"

They see only big AAA multiplats + big AAA 1st party exclusives thats why.



KingofTrolls on 03 January 2017
Barkley said:

XBO

Console exclusive = 119

PS4

Console exclusive = 381

Console exclusive = better on PC.



Soundwave on 03 January 2017

Probably yes.

I think the main take away Microsoft learned from the XBox One is that they cannot have weak hardware. They must have better hardware than Sony does and they are going to ensure Scorpio is better than the PS4 Pro hardware wise in pretty much every way.



DonFerrari on 03 January 2017
KingofTrolls said:
DonFerrari said:

I fell people still hanging to 95% "truth"

They see only big AAA multiplats + big AAA 1st party exclusives thats why.

Even if they counted like that they wouldn't get 95%



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

KingofTrolls on 03 January 2017
DonFerrari said:

is the 140+ multiplatforms X1 have over PS4 mostly PC games or what?

Indie PC + X1  digital only games.