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BMaker11 on 22 December 2016

People in this thread are saying "he's talking about exclusive content like DLC! It's different for exclusive games".

Isn't he the one who said, in elaborating on the parity clause, that if games come out first on another console and then come to Xbox, they have to have extra, exclusive content, otherwise the game can't be put on Xbox?

How's that any different? The Xbox version gets exclusive content in the game that could, otherwise, just be downloaded. But no, it has to be "special" to be on Xbox, if it was on a different console first, and therefore that content is blocked from being on a different console.



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RidingMower on 22 December 2016
jason1637 said:

How is it hypocritically when all he timed exclusives and timed DLCs on XB1 this gen were set up before he became head of xbox?

Phil got there March of 2014. You do know he's been in charge with it all from that date? Games from the 3rd month of 2014 and beyond. The Xb1 launched 129 days prior. Unless all these exclusives all magically happened within that short period. . .  FIFA, the latest Division, exc..



thismeintiel on 22 December 2016
AngryLittleAlchemist said:
shikamaru317 said:
VGC up to it's usual shenanigans, commenting without reading the full quote. He's talking about exclusive content, not full games. Only Sony has done that this gen, MS hasn't paid for exclusive content in any of the 3rd parties they bought marketing rights to.

WHICH IS WORSE. Timed exclusive GAMES IS WORSE than (timed) exclusive dlc

This. And MS is the one who started this practice BIG time with the 360. It's basically Spencer being hypocritical, with a little side of salt, just cause MS isn't willing to pump as much cash into Xbox for timed DLC and/or exclusives anymore.  



 

Ruler on 22 December 2016

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Pavolink on 22 December 2016

Glad to see him being kind with those Tomb Raiderfans who were mad at being timed exclusive.



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jason1637 on 22 December 2016
RidingMower said:
jason1637 said:

How is it hypocritically when all he timed exclusives and timed DLCs on XB1 this gen were set up before he became head of xbox?

Phil got there March of 2014. You do know he's been in charge with it all from that date? Games from the 3rd month of 2014 and beyond. The Xb1 launched 129 days prior. Unless all these exclusives all magically happened within that short period. . .  FIFA, the latest Division, exc..

FIFA doesn't have exclusive Xbox content. The Division was announced to have Xbox early content E3 2013 before he took charge.



BMaker11 on 22 December 2016
jason1637 said:
BMaker11 said:

When games are exclusive to Xbox, they make sure you know it's exclusive to Xbox. When Rise of the Tomb Raider was announced at that E3, there was no such "exclusively on Xbox" or "playable first on Xbox" after the trailer. And then, on the Xbox E3 page, it wasn't under "blockbuster exclusives" amongst Sunset Overdrive, Halo 5, and Crackdown . It was under "Featured Games", which was a bunch of multiplats, like Assassin's Creed: Unity, CoD: Advanced Warefare, and Destiny.

http://www.xbox.com:80/en-US/e3/xbox-one-games">Proof

http://www.xbox.com:80/en-US/e3/xbox-one-games">Coupled with the fact that the exclusivity wasn't actually announced until 2 months later at a different event, and, well.....all we have a speculation, but it seems like some backdoor deal was made in the span of time between E3 2014 and Gamescom 2014. 

Well you ignored what i said about Dead Rising 4. When it was announced we didnt know if it was timed or not.

Edit- Tomb raider was announced as timed exclusive at Squares Confrence.

Like I said, we have nothing but speculation regarding RotTR when it was announced, but all the signs point to it being multiplatform. Not under "blockbuster exclusives" on the Xbox site, but instead, coupled with multiplatform games. No "play it first on Xbox" at the end of the trailer, when they did it for all exclusive games, timed or permanent. 

Then, it was announced at Gamescom 2014 (not at a Square conference), 2 months after E3, that it was an Xbox exclusive. Proof

Then, it was clarified after the fact that the exclusivity "has a duration". Proof

Exclusivity doesn't get announced after the fact like that unless either A. a deal was recently made or B. the other platform's version is cancelled.



Jazz2K on 22 December 2016

You gotta love how people are missing the point. It doesn't matter if Phil says this or if Sony is also guilty of it... what Phil says is true and it pisses off every fanbases. Keeping either games or content from other console owners is bad practice.

But ehh keep flaming, seems like that's the popular logic on VGC.



GribbleGrunger on 22 December 2016
RolStoppable said:
Maybe this is a sign of things to come for the Xbox department. Their funds are getting cut by the higher-ups.

That's basically it, yes. He's taking the opportunity to create an early narrative to hopefully change the headlines from 'MS has no exclusive deals' to 'Those terrible folks at Sony with their anti consumer deals'. His tactics are transparent, hypocritical and petulant. Cutting the price didn't work. Lying in adverts didn't work. Promising a more powerful console in the future didn't work. It's throwing the toys out of the pram time.

It's frigin' stupid considering the XB1 is doing great and there ARE games coming for the system. Microsoft's obsession with 'winning at all costs' is embarrassing.



 

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jason1637 on 22 December 2016
BMaker11 said:
jason1637 said:

Well you ignored what i said about Dead Rising 4. When it was announced we didnt know if it was timed or not.

Edit- Tomb raider was announced as timed exclusive at Squares Confrence.

Like I said, we have nothing but speculation regarding RotTR when it was announced, but all the signs point to it being multiplatform. Not under "blockbuster exclusives" on the Xbox site, but instead, coupled with multiplatform games. No "play it first on Xbox" at the end of the trailer, when they did it for all exclusive games, timed or permanent. 

Then, it was announced at Gamescom 2014 (not at a Square conference), 2 months after E3, that it was an Xbox exclusive. Proof

Then, it was clarified after the fact that the exclusivity "has a duration". Proof

Exclusivity doesn't get announced after the fact like that unless either A. a deal was recently made or B. the other platform's version is cancelled.

It was announced just a bit over their month after their E3 http://press.na.square-enix.com/releases/492/square-enix-annnounces-rise-of-the-tomb-raider-destined-for-windows-10 Forbes said it was announced at Square conference which was wrong my bad.

Also Square said the deal was made based on how MS supported Tomb Raider DE so it would also make sense the deal was made before Phill became head.

http://www.polygon.com/2015/8/5/9104411/rise-of-the-tomb-raider-xbox-exclusive-microsoft-support-square-enix