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LMFAO at this thread.
The reason Ea Access is not on Ps4 it's because Sony doesn't want it easy as that.
And from the threads i see and posts from OP he hates Sony with burning passion defending Xbox at every turn.

Just like that guy with cartman as his profile Pic he can't stand Sony whatever it is bashing Ps4 related topics (like this one) he is there to hate on PS4. 

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SWORDF1SH said:
Bristow9091 said:

Are you sure? My yearly price is still the same...

Fucking fuck. I pay quarterly and the raised it from £12 to £15. I just presumed that the yearly fee also went up. I'm paying £60 a year that way. The yearly is still £40. I'm going to change it to yearly renewal when my sub runs out.

Pretty awesome that something cool came out of this thread, that is a free Season pass per year you just got thanks to the thread here haha.

Nice early Christmas Present! Always cool to find out stuff like this.



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Kerotan said:
EA were all buddy buddy with MS leading into this gen and for most of last gen fucking over Sony by doing deals with Ms time and time again.

Now that ps is thr dominant king and they don't need a service like this I'd say Sony are teaching them a lesson. I can guarantee you if Activision had their own equivalent this gen it would be on ps4.

Nobody is getting fucked over by those deals, Sony has money now and they can afford to make those deals. Meanwhile MS is still making deals because Sony can't buy them all.

If Activision had an equivalent why would it be exclusive to PS4? EA wants its service on PS4, Sony doesn't. With that said MS would probably take an "Activision Access" before Sony would.



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jason1637 said:
setsunatenshi said:
Sure... Lets all preted Sony has some obligation to open the doors to services that they deem not benificial for their own ecosystem just because some whiners online, who probably don't even have a playstation (or not their main console) determine they are owed something.

If you guys want an open (kind of) platform, just get a gaming pc.

Personally I say fuck ea access and their practice, especially artificially keeping early access on games for a monthly fee when the game should be released at the same time to everyone buying it day 1.

Keep it up Sony

EA games sell millions so it seems pretty beneficial to the ecosystem.

Lol having a service that gives u 10% off EA games/DLC, 35 games, and early access does not make it an open platfotm because all downloads still come from the PS store.

Lol how does other people getting to play 10 hours before a game comes out negativly affect you?

 

You don't need to try and sell me that BS 'service' from EA. I have origin on PC, so if I ever felt the need to have EA access I would purchase it.

 

Now on your question, how does it negatively affect me? Well let's put it this way, I believe it is predatory of any company to artificially withold the release of a game in order to milk extra money from the people who are excited for that game to come out and even pre-ordered it. Also in a game like Battlefield waiting a week after release to begin playing it means you're already at a disadvantage against people who managed to unlock a ton of weapons in the week prior.

I do not like this practice, so I don't support it with my money. I don't want to have a situation in which every big publisher things they can have a service like this and we'd be stuck either having 2 tiers of customers. Sure it might not be a big deal to have the next Fifa released 1 week earlier, but what if story heavy games like Mass Effect and such have this same treatment? Now all of a sudden, there is no safe place on the internet with tons of people spoiling the game to those who 'have' to wait an extra week to play it.

 

The main point I was trying to make is, Sony has full control of their ecosystem, and if they deem deterimental to their services to have EA access, they are 100% in their right to not allow it. They were transparent about it from the beginning, so not 1 person who bought a Playstation was 'robbed' of this service.



Sony has a closed marketplace and they want to keep it that way. Any serious competition to PS+ will be considered a threat and will be treated as such. Sony is smart to keep EA Access away from PS4. Otherwise fans will start demanding more from Sony with PS+ and that hurts profit margins.



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I basically miss no game from EA, so I can't be bothered by the lack of EA Access on PS4, to bad if you really like the pass, but play it on your Xbox Steve.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

jason1637 said:

According to VGC there has been 14 sport games to sell over 1ml on PS4,. Combined sports games make up 54.36ml software at retail. VGC also says that 14shooter games have sold over 1ml at retail with a combined total of 85.6. A total of around 14m compared to the 293m games sold at retail. http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=&publisher=&platform=PS4&genre=&minSales=0&results=200 Also the best selling game on PS4 is a shooter so PS4 gamers love sport, and shooter games. Many would love such a service.

Also EA games do sell well on Xbox. 9 EA games have sold atleast 1 million on Xbox one. http://www.vgchartz.com/gamedb/?name=&publisher=474&platform=XOne&genre=&minSales=0&results=200

While your sentament is there (I presume), the amount a game sells means nothing. He didn't say about how well the games sell, just that they are all sports or shooters. If he isn't interested in Sports and shooters (especially as it's yearly iterations of FIFA and Madden), the value isn't there for him. When I look at the list of games on offer (in the knowledge that many of them might not be available due to Xbox's backwards compatability). I have an interest in the few RPGs in there like Dragon Age or Mass Effect and then maybe Battlefront. But I own those RPGs already and if I wanted I could buy Battlefront for £8 in GAME. Even then, I'd have to pay XBL/PS+ to play Battlefront due to online restrictions.



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bunchanumbers said:
Sony has a closed marketplace and they want to keep it that way. Any serious competition to PS+ will be considered a threat and will be treated as such. Sony is smart to keep EA Access away from PS4. Otherwise fans will start demanding more from Sony with PS+ and that hurts profit margins.

Yeah it's pretty much this in a nutshell, it isn't quite the same as psn+ in terms of the way it dish's out the games but at the same time it very much is a case of Sony trying to make sure that they keep their closed market closed, they don't want to spend millions and millions getting their hardware into homes and then aim to not profit from doing so by selling content via psn network.

Like I said earlier here, it isn't a great thing for their customer of course, but you have to just accept some things, you likely wont see a steam app on consoles either selling Steam games or xbla or psn on rival consoles selling games as in psn on xboxone or visa versa, it just would be counter intuitive to them selling that closed market hardware design. Much in the same way that years ago you couldn't put a snes cart into a megadrive or visa versa. Software sales and licensing is where the big money comes from on the systems and Sony are keen to a tight enough grip on the 50million customers in their closed market while they can anyway.



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d21lewis said:

I don't know the history of EA and Sony. I owned a PS3 and an Xbox 360 last gen and I don't really remember any favoritism. And even if there were, why would it be any worse than Grand Theft Auto giving M$ a one year exclusive to GTAIV dlc or Call of Duty giving Xbox players first access to certain content?

Also, does Sony want EA Access? Does EA want their service on PlayStation 4? I legitimately do not know. Somebody educate me with some facts because this thread isn't doing it.

What I do know is that I'm on week two of a month long free trial and when it runs out, I'm signing up. Need For Speed franchise, Battlefield franchise, Plants vs Zombies franchise, Mass Effect franchise, Start Wars Battlefront, Unravel, Dragon Age, etc are too much to pass up for less than the price of a burger a month.

I can say what I suppose.

At the time EA Access was started EA put MS and Sony to bid and MS won, so Sony just made that remark out of spite after losing.

Or the even more plausible. EA demanded that most of the cut made from the games on EA Access discount plan to be made to EA because it would be their game and their service. So you get free games on EA Access that would compete with the sale of PSN and also the discounts that when made through EA Access wouldn't be made on PSN.

So altough it isn't less value to PS customers to have EA Access it almost certainly is less money to Sony.



duduspace11 "Well, since we are estimating costs, Pokemon Red/Blue did cost Nintendo about $50m to make back in 1996"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=8808363

Mr Puggsly: "Hehe, I said good profit. You said big profit. Frankly, not losing money is what I meant by good. Don't get hung up on semantics"

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/post.php?id=9008994

Azzanation: "PS5 wouldn't sold out at launch without scalpers."

setsunatenshi said:
jason1637 said:

EA games sell millions so it seems pretty beneficial to the ecosystem.

Lol having a service that gives u 10% off EA games/DLC, 35 games, and early access does not make it an open platfotm because all downloads still come from the PS store.

Lol how does other people getting to play 10 hours before a game comes out negativly affect you?

 

You don't need to try and sell me that BS 'service' from EA. I have origin on PC, so if I ever felt the need to have EA access I would purchase it.

 

Now on your question, how does it negatively affect me? Well let's put it this way, I believe it is predatory of any company to artificially withold the release of a game in order to milk extra money from the people who are excited for that game to come out and even pre-ordered it. Also in a game like Battlefield waiting a week after release to begin playing it means you're already at a disadvantage against people who managed to unlock a ton of weapons in the week prior.

I do not like this practice, so I don't support it with my money. I don't want to have a situation in which every big publisher things they can have a service like this and we'd be stuck either having 2 tiers of customers. Sure it might not be a big deal to have the next Fifa released 1 week earlier, but what if story heavy games like Mass Effect and such have this same treatment? Now all of a sudden, there is no safe place on the internet with tons of people spoiling the game to those who 'have' to wait an extra week to play it.

 

The main point I was trying to make is, Sony has full control of their ecosystem, and if they deem deterimental to their services to have EA access, they are 100% in their right to not allow it. They were transparent about it from the beginning, so not 1 person who bought a Playstation was 'robbed' of this service.

Your post seems level headed and your explained your reasons well. I'll respond point by point. Before I do, I'll just say that i respect your opinion on the matter.

1.) I never thought EA Access had value until I tried it. I'm the kind of person that prefers to own a game rather than "rent" them. It wasn't until recently that I warmed up to the idea of PlayStation Plus and Xbox Live Gold "free games". I understand you're happy with your current options. I was happy with mine. I can still appreciate the fact that there might be some gamers that play solely on PS4 that would be happy with a service like EA Access. Even if it were another company that offered it in PlayStation (ie: Activision) it wouldn't be EA. Even if their offerings are better, it still wouldn't be the same.

It's a moot point, though. As it stands, there isn't an EA Access on PS4 and there's not going to be. 

2.) To my knowledge, EA let players play 10 hours before the game released. There's a big difference between 10 hours and a whole week! That's basically the difference between people who went to a midnight launch and people who waited until the next morning to pick up a pre order. And even then, it had to be digital. Not a huge advantage, in my opinion.

Conversely, Gears of War 4 let people who paid extra for a digital version play the game a full four days earlier! It didn't ruin things.

3.) I agree. Sony has full control of their ecosystem. I also think that people who like games from a particular company would love EA Access or something similar if they were more educated on what it did. I admit it. I didn't know. Now I do. If there was a "Sony Access" that allowed $10 off on upcoming Sony games, and also let players download Ratchet and Clank, Gravity Rush, ND Collection, etc, wouldn't that sound great?

But, as you said, you don't support such practices and I respect that. We can only speak for ourselves but clearly, you can see why other people might find it enticing, right? And with the feature being entirely optional and inexpensive, you can see why it doesn't really hurt anyone or give an unfair advantage.