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Forums - Sales Discussion - November 2016 NPD Thread! Hardware estimates in the OP!

Namiirei on 17 December 2016
Dark_Feanor said:

With the numbers we have 

We don't have any real numbers.



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SWORDF1SH on 17 December 2016
Dark_Feanor said:
There were people talking about PS4 hiting 2mi unitys sold in NA.
With the numbers we have it's close to 1mi and their conclusion: everything is fine, forget NA, look at the rest of the world...

We have to be objective here. We could blame the lack of big software Blockbusters like last year, that is clearly one of the reasons.

I justbask you to look back at your posts last few months and explain why you where so off.

This again! 1 person says one thing and it gets applied to everybody. My prediction for NPD was 0.9M and 1.2M. Are you aiming that at somebody? Please tell me who you're saying it to.



xl-klaudkil on 17 December 2016

Wasn't cyber monday the bigger day this year for consoles?



Dark_Feanor on 17 December 2016
Namiirei said:
Dark_Feanor said:

With the numbers we have 

We don't have any real numbers.

35% hardware revenue drop.



SWORDF1SH on 17 December 2016
3sexty said:
SWORDF1SH said:

Worldwide they did annihilate the XB1. Well that happens anyway but the data we have and the 50M sold to customers show PS4 had a decent boost. No matter how you spin it, the PS4 shows no sign of decline. 

And I'll say it again, it's stupid to predict something like the decline in consoles from 1 month of NPD. You are starting to sound like you have a picture in your head and your trying to find the puzzle pieces to build that picture. None of the pieces fit but your insistent that they will make this picture. You've now reached the point where you are now squashing the pieces together so you can go 'ta-dah, told you it made a picture'.

I can't have a serious conversation with somebody who wants to predict the end of consoles based on one NPD. LMAO! 

Sorry you have not answered the question i asked you. Your thoughts please?

'too many positive sales increase factors on both side of the fence (Particularly sony with pro/vr/slim all aligned at the same time pretty much) that failed to deliver its killer blow just before christmas. So what do you make of that. Sony should have annihilated that month. Tell me why didnt they?' I'll laugh with you when you have a well considered repsonse to this :)  PS I really think people use the lingo or whatever you call it 'LMAO' way to conveniently when they are really annoyed or pissed off...I mean it would just be easier to be honest and tell me that you are annoyed..I would appreciate your honesty.

Cheers mate!

I am annoyed by the lack of common sense. You got me.

But that LMAO was genuine. How can anybody claim doom with one NPD which covers only the US. I find it extremely funny. Do you make these claims everytime a NPD is down YoY? Jan '15 NPD , PS4 down 30%, consoles doomed. Sept '15 NPD, PS4 down 210k, consoles doomed. 

And I have answered your question about Pro, multiple times. Pro increased sales worldwide, PS4 had its best Black Friday week Worldwide ever in the history of Playstation and sold over 50M to consumers and on its way to selling more than last year.

You obviously want to concentrate on one market and one month to help you squash all those puzzle pieces together to make you picture. 



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xl-klaudkil on 17 December 2016
Dark_Feanor said:
Namiirei said:

We don't have any real numbers.

35% hardware revenue drop.

Omg.

3-350 dollars. 

Vs 250-200 dollars. 

 

See the drop?



Dark_Feanor on 17 December 2016
CGI-Quality said:
Dark_Feanor said:
There were people talking about PS4 hiting 2mi unitys sold in NA.
With the numbers we have it's close to 1mi and their conclusion: everything is fine, forget NA, look at the rest of the world...

We have to be objective here. We could blame the lack of big software Blockbusters like last year, that is clearly one of the reasons.

I justbask you to look back at your posts last few months and explain why you where so off.

I ask you to show where they were off, with solid numbers to support. You continue to have counter claims. I want to see what you have. If it isn't a confirmed source, then there shouldn't be any finger pointing.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=222125&page=2#8

 

170 users said yes.

 

Have fun



Dark_Feanor on 17 December 2016
xl-klaudkil said:
Dark_Feanor said:

35% hardware revenue drop.

Omg.

3-350 dollars. 

Vs 250-200 dollars. 

 

See the drop?

That is not acurated.

Last year we had the XOne and PS4 at $299 or less.

 

249 is a 15% drop from last year. There was also the 399 PS4 Pro and 349 XOne 2Tb bundles.



LudicrousSpeed on 17 December 2016
Dark_Feanor said:
CGI-Quality said:

I ask you to show where they were off, with solid numbers to support. You continue to have counter claims. I want to see what you have. If it isn't a confirmed source, then there shouldn't be any finger pointing.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=222125

 

170 users said yes.

 

Have fun

Fixed your link for you. Funny read!



celador on 17 December 2016
Dark_Feanor said:
CGI-Quality said:

I ask you to show where they were off, with solid numbers to support. You continue to have counter claims. I want to see what you have. If it isn't a confirmed source, then there shouldn't be any finger pointing.

http://gamrconnect.vgchartz.com/thread.php?id=222125&page=2#8

 

170 users said yes.

 

Have fun

Xbox One lost US. Xbox One lost UK

It is losing everywhere

25 million behind, gets bigger every single day

I'm having fun, are you? I wonder how many times you have predicted Xbox One to win something this gen and got it wrong?