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SuperNova on 07 December 2016
Hiku said:
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I see. Thanks for the eplanation. I don't understand all of the terms, but I'll see if I can follow the instructions anyway. Hopefully the IP can walk me through it. Or perhaps do it for me. One issue I forgot to mention is that I have no access to Router 1's settings. Due to security risks with that particular router, the IP has chosen to not let customers change its settings. So I'll either have to ask them to do it for me, or I'll have to do it with a switch that I buy.

Not sure where you currently live, but you should have a quick check if that is actually legal for them to do. Where I live that practice is considered unfair competition (for third party router providers) and ISPs have to give out setting informations to customers.

Even if your ISPs official policy state that they dont give it out you might still find the neccissary info (like someone else explained you will need the right settings in order to make the modem inside the router authetificate itself to the provider) if you search your providers or IT related forums for a bit.

With that info you could just buy a reliable modem/router combination and use that instead of the one provided by your ISP.



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walsufnir on 07 December 2016
Hiku said:

Is there any kind of device that can expand a single fiberoptics broadband port on the wall into multiple ports? Like a router, basically. But a router seems to alter the signal. I need a device that purely splits the signal without altering it.

Is there something like that?
I need to hook up a router, which refuses to work unless its directly plugged into the wall. But because of certain issues, I need to find a way to connect more than one router to that fiberoptics port. (Connecting a second router into the first one is not an option.)

Please show me what exactly is coming out your wall. Also don't confuse the topics and meanings. A router routes, a switch switches. A router routes IP packets, a switch forwards packets only on layer 2 and only knows mac addresses (and a hub doesn't even know that).

 

Also, why do you need more routers?! And what type of protocol is coming out of your wall? Plain IP? Do you have to "dial up", do radius login or get IP via DHCP? Because that determines which device you have to plug in.



RenCutypoison on 07 December 2016

IIRC the router will still need to handle IP handling while using a switch, so make sure your router is capable of handling as much peripherals as you want to connect it to.



Ganoncrotch on 07 December 2016
SuperNova said:
Hiku said:

I see. Thanks for the eplanation. I don't understand all of the terms, but I'll see if I can follow the instructions anyway. Hopefully the IP can walk me through it. Or perhaps do it for me. One issue I forgot to mention is that I have no access to Router 1's settings. Due to security risks with that particular router, the IP has chosen to not let customers change its settings. So I'll either have to ask them to do it for me, or I'll have to do it with a switch that I buy.

Not sure where you currently live, but you should have a quick check if that is actually legal for them to do. Where I live that practice is considered unfair competition (for third party router providers) and ISPs have to give out setting informations to customers.

Even if your ISPs official policy state that they dont give it out you might still find the neccissary info (like someone else explained you will need the right settings in order to make the modem inside the router authetificate itself to the provider) if you search your providers or IT related forums for a bit.

With that info you could just buy a reliable modem/router combination and use that instead of the one provided by your ISP.

Aye this seems insane to me because without allowing users to change devices and then also stopping them from getting settings from the device that does cut sales of 3rd party or gaming modems/routers out of the picture.



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Ganoncrotch on 07 December 2016
SpokenTruth said:
Buy your own modem and router, send their crap back. Fixed.

Do you have an ISP provided modem or your own? And is that a separate device from the ISP provided router? Most routers you purchase will not have a modem built in and you will need to buy one separately. ISP's will often supply a combined router/modem device.....and they suck.

Almost certainly sounds like a single device which he isn't allowed change the settings.

But OP can you at least See the settings it is using? If you navigate to the "site" of your router with the IP of it or if it has a url to reach this (it would be under the router/modem) normally something like 192.168.1.1 or 192.168.1.254 will bring you to it if you put that in your URL bar of a browser, you would need to be able to find your IP/Mask and Gateway IP at the very least before you would be able to just bring in new hardware and connect them to that line into your house.



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